Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marco McMillian

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep and move to Death of Marco McMillian. I wouldn't consider a mayoral candidate a public official, but consensus seems to agree that this meets our rather strict BLP1E guidelines, but not as an individual article. If nothing continues in this case after a few months, feel free to renominate it for AFD. Secret ^account 21:03, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marco McMillian

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As of right now, what we have here is an unelected candidate (thus not qualifying for an article under WP:POLITICIAN) for the mayoralty of a small town (a political office not significant enough that he'd necessarily qualify for an article under WP:POLITICIAN even if he'd been the actual mayor), who is thus notable only for having been murdered (thus violating WP:CRIME). While it's possible that the incident might accrue greater notability in the future (e.g. if it ultimately turns out to have been a properly verifiable anti-gay hate crime), Wikipedia does not keep articles about news stories just because they might become genuinely notable someday — we only allow them after permanent notability has already been demonstrated. That isn't yet the case here — as of right now, unconfirmed speculation about possible motives for the murder is all that exists in any media source whatsoever. Accordingly, this is a WP:NOTNEWSPAPER violation as things currently stand. Delete for now; we can recreate it in the future if genuine significance as anything more than a passing news story ever actually materializes. Bearcat (talk) 19:44, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Mississippi-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment He's received international coverage[1][2] though it's too soon to show lasting historical significance. Not opposed to move to article about his murder if that's judged more appropriate. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Merge & Redirect to Death of Marco McMillian; subject has received significant coverage in multiple non-primary reliable sources; that being said the majority of the coverage is about the subject's death, and therefore this article falls under WP:NOTMEMORIAL and WP:BIO1E. Therefore, the question is, does the event of the subject's death continue to receive coverage so the event doesn't fall under WP:NOTNEWS, that is something only time will tell. Therefore, the article should be refocused on the event, and if the event does not receive continued coverage a AfD should be refilled at some later date (say two to four months).--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We shouldn't even have an article about the event until the event has been demonstrated to have attained lasting, permanent encyclopedic notability. If "only time will tell" whether it has lasting significance or not, then we properly shouldn't have an article about it at any title until after time has actually told. Bearcat (talk) 00:56, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and Rename to Death of Marco McMillian. This is a stub article, but one on an unquestionably notable topic. Gamaliel (talk) 22:00, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and move to Death of Marco McMillian. The circumstances make his death certainly notable. Dralwi k|^{Have a Chat} 17:05, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Flat keep here, no rename necessary. Murdered public official with copious news coverage. The incident is part of his biography. Carrite (talk) 17:41, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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