Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manchester Futsal Club

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (X! · talk) · @187 · 03:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Manchester Futsal Club

Minor sports club with no sources covering the subject in depth. Notability not established. Quantpole (talk) 21:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. It appears to play in the national league so is at the highest level for this sport. It does need work however. --Bduke (Discussion) 22:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep applying WP:FOOTYN seems appropriate. The FA Futsal League operates regionally but does appear to be a national league using a playoff type system to find a national champion. The club seems to have been involved in this so it's probably a keep, although rather reluctantly. Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not only is WP:FOOTYN a WikiProject essay with no general consensus, it applies to a different sport. Stifle (talk) 08:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment yes, different; but awfully similar and it seems to work reasonably well within it's sphere of influence. It doesnt seem inappropriate to apply it's principles here. Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Comment As the WP:FV taskforce of WikiProject Football uses WP:FOOTYN and WP:ATHLETE, I think this can be kept. SummerHoliday 10:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 12:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 12:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I have mixed opinion on this one. The team plays in a national league in the sense that it determines the English champions, who will qualify for the UEFA Futsal Cup. On the other hand the sport appears to be very minor in England and as such individual teams cannot be considered really notable. Julius Sahara (talk) 17:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Is this a professional team? I can't find anything that says the players are paid. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:32, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- No it's not a professional team. The impression I get is that the players are mainly university students. Quantpole (talk) 21:56, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as my comment above, and it does play in the national league and at the highest level possible. SummerHoliday 10:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- For a minor sport (which this is judging by the coverage it receives), 'Highest level possible' does not equal notability. There is zero coverage of the club in reliable sources, with very little coverage of the league itself. There are many minor sports that, because of their limited popularity, the competitions are almost automatically national and the highest level possible. In addition, WP:FOOTYN is just an essay, that is for a related but different sport, and the various notability guidelines are simply advice on whether a subject would meet the WP:GNG, and do not overule those guidelines. Show me coverage in independent reliable sources and then I will change my mind. Quantpole (talk) 11:25, 20 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.