Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mamak railway station

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:03, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mamak railway station

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This train station has no claim for notability. Essentially no content either. Mopswade (talk) 08:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment if it exists, it passes WP: GEOFEAT, which is all it needs to do. ——SN 54129 08:46, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does it? GEOFEAT says this "Many artificial geographical features may be mentioned in plenty of reliable sources, but they may not necessarily be notable. The inclusion of a man-made geographical feature on maps or in directories is insufficient to establish topic notability." I don't think this train station warrants a standalone article, if this is all the information there is on this station, one for the entire line will be more than fine. Mopswade (talk) 09:17, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but only if someone adds a source. Failing that, redirect to the line, if the list of stations is supported by a source, or delete if not. PamD 11:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a source to the article, Phil Bridger (talk) 17:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That source is a Wikipedia mirror/copy-paste, see [1]. SportingFlyer T·C 19:10, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If the source is a mirror then that link certainly doesn't show it. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia: Sincan ile Ankara İstasyonu arasındaki demir yolu hattı 1892'de tamamlanmış ve hizmete açılmıştır. Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Devlet Demiryolları'ndan önce hatta çok az sayıda tren hizmet vermekteydi. Tren setleri buhar motorlu bir lokomotifin çektiği üç adet vagondan oluşmaktaydı. 1972'de elektriklendirilen hatta E23000 banliyö tren setleri hizmet vermektedir. 11 Temmuz 2016 tarihinde yenileme çalışmaları nedeniyle kısmen kapatılmıştır. 12 Nisan 2018'de tekrar hizmete girmiştir.

Rayhaber.com (the source currently in the article:) Sincan ile Ankara Garı arasındaki demiryolu hattı 1892’de tamamlanmış ve hizmete açılmıştır. TCDD’den önce hatta çok az sayıda tren hizmet vermekteydi. Tren setleri buhar motorlu bir lokomotifin çektiği üç adet vagondan oluşmaktaydı. 1972’de elektriklendirilen hatta E23000 banliyö tren setleri hizmet vermektedir. 11 Temmuz 2016 tarihinde yenileme çalışmaları nedeniyle kısmen kapatılmıştır. 12 Nisan 2018’de tekrar hizmete girmiştir.

It's not impossible Wikipedia is a copyvio, but this post was posted after the link I posted. Not a reliable source. SportingFlyer T·C 20:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:15, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:15, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. We always keep articles on railway stations. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:55, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the other related AfD, this also fails WP:GNG, the article should be redirected to the line until it can be further developed. Still not sure where in WP:GEOFEAT a train station is "automatically" notable. SportingFlyer T·C 19:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Consensus, per WP:RAILOUTCOMES. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - "generally kept" not "always," probably because stations typically get sources. Where are the sources? SportingFlyer T·C 18:48, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - In Turkish, I expect. Have you looked? Phil Bridger (talk) 18:59, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Yep. "Mamak Tren İstasyonu" brought up only directory sites, and the Turkish Wikipedia doesn't have an article, and most of the stations on that website are unsourced anyways. SportingFlyer T·C 19:05, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        See my reply at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cebeci railway station. It's good that we have someone who knows Turkish involved, but I'm not convinced that that search is in any way exhaustive. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:29, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        As noted, I don't know Turkish - just trying to search in Turkish to find sources which pass WP:GNG, none of which have been found yet. SportingFlyer T·C 20:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Mainline commuter rail station of major city which WP:OUTCOMES demonstrate we always keep. It's absolutely impossible for such infrastructure to exist without extensive government reports, surveys, budgets and overall scrutiny by the public. Just a brief search in the Turkish language, which I don't speak a word of, shows the scope of this project.[2][3] Such a station would never be considered for AfD in the US or UK. Might this be systemic bias? Oakshade (talk) 15:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 05:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Previous consensus typically keeps stations such as this. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.