Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahnaz Samadi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nobody except the nominator wanted to delete the article. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 15:24, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mahnaz Samadi

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The subject was deported from Canada for 'suspicion of terrorism': which is not enough to meet basic notability requirements Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 22:11, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:21, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:21, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:21, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:28, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. She is a renowned international terrorist prosecuted in three countries, and has significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, including Newsweek, The Washington Times, The Washington Post, The Globe and Mail, The Ottawa Citizen, The Daily Star, Associated Press, CBC News, United Press International, The National Post and Ms. Magazine, plus several books. Clearly meets Wikipedia:Notability. Pahlevun (talk) 00:22, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The subject is not "renowned", and did only receive limited coverage in Western press for being deported from Canada for allegedly been involved in an attack at the Iranian embassy in Canada, nothing else. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 09:11, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep longstanding article about a People's Mujahedin of Iran operative deported by Canada. Massive additions and deletions to article during this discussion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep. Being deported doesn't suffice, but being a leader of a terrorist... er freedom fighter ... er whatever ... group with international coverage could. I'd be happier if some of the more indepth coverage were either more indepth or not all in connection to her 2000 deportation, though. --GRuban (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Per E.M.Gregory and GRuban's input above, have you been able to verify how is she a leader of the MEK? The current leader of the group appears to be Maryam Rajavi, and Samadi is not even mentioned in the People's Mujahedin of Iran article, so I don't see how describing her as the leader of the group can be accurate. Additionally, the sources in the provided articles say that "She was responsible for directing some MEK operations from Iraq, suggesting that she was sent to the US and then to Canada, to act in an organizational capacity." Is being deported for suggesting that she was sent to the US and Canada to act in an organizational capacity enough to meet notability? (I tried to correct this in the article but keep getting reverted by Pahlevun). Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 13:09, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"a" leader, not "the" leader. I am going by the "leader of North American operations" statement in the article, which seems to be cited to books, rather than online sources, so I haven't read them. Anyway, there isn't a "Wikipedia:Notability:Leader of ~~terrorist~~ group" guideline, so that isn't the key point, but there is WP:GNG, which she seems to meet. I can imagine the argument that all the indepth coverage was in the context of the one event of getting deported; but I do think she crosses it, since it's coverage of her "career", basically, even though it was prompted by the deportation event. --GRuban (talk) 14:28, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to GRuban's comment. I ought to have made clear that before opining "K" I ran a news archive search. It bought up multiple deep dives into her background and terror convictions by the big Canadian dailies, prompted by the arrest, but going into great detail and bringing statements from Iranian ex-pat organizations. I won't pretent to have untangled the ins and outs of Iranian politics and terrorism in that era. I am just stating that such material was published in WP:RS newspapers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@E.M.Gregory, could you please add a couple of references to the article outlining her terror convictions? The current references in the article only suggest she was involved in terror activity, but there is nothing about being convicted (which would help establish notability). Thanks. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 10:35, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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