Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lying in Early Childhood

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The result was delete. v/r - T P 19:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lying in Early Childhood[edit]

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Written like a how-to guide rather like an encyclopedia. Prod declined. Would you mind signing my guestbook? -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 19:09, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: How-to manual on teaching children honesty. Undoubtedly the topic is notable but there's not a scrap here that would be used in an actual article. EEng (talk) 22:18, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:18, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTHOWTO. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:09, 14 October 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79[reply]
Delete - Article is an essay and could not be turned into an encyclopaedic entry. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 11:17, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Only a part of the article (the section "Ways to Discourage Lying") is howto. The topic is encyclopedic, and has been discussed in several scholarly papers and books in the context of developmental psychology and law (children as witnesses). See Lying in Early Childhood#Further_reading for examples. This article can be cleaned up, better sourced and turned into an encyclopedic piece titled something like "Lying in Childhood". utcursch | talk 12:43, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The subject seems obviously worthy of an article. Honestly (:D), I don't even see why a section on "Ways to Discourage Lying" violates WP:HOWTO. The subject of the article is the lies told by very small children. An article on the subject that didn't mention efforts to discourage this behavior would seem incomplete. If this seems inherently non-neutral or prescriptive, what to do about articles about murder or burglary? - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 05:20, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Murder and Burglary explains the topic of "murder" and "burglary", but this isn't a topic, it rather explains how and why people lie, and what you can do about it. I'm surprised you think that even the "Ways to Discourage Lying" section is not written like a how-to manual. WP:NOTHOWTO, WP:NOTESSAY, WP:CIR. Thanks. Would you mind signing my guestbook? -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 08:05, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. Would you mind signing my guestbook? -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 08:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as essay. The entire article is sourced to a web site of no particular authority and a children's magazine supplement for parents. These are not RSs. The bibliography lists good sources, but most of them are not about early childhood, but the more specific problem of children -- mostly older children -- testifying in court. I see no evidence they have been used for the article. My impression is that this is a rather low quality term paper, not an encyclopedia article. An article can be written, but it would mean starting over from scratch. (In my experience, a title with each word inappropriately capitalized is 1/3 of the time Spam, 1/3 a school essay, and 1/3 an editor who is new to Wikipedia. That last third need only to be improved, but the others need to be deleted. DGG ( talk ) 04:45, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.