Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luke Adams (footballer) (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. As the player now meets WP:NFOOTBALL, he meets the notability standard and the snowball clause applies, as Phil will be tossing snowballs with his spoon before this gets deleted. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 13:38, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Luke Adams (footballer)[edit]

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He has not played a professional senior game at club or international level. Article fails WP:NFOOTBALL. Also fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 09:29, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep based on the 4 international appearance for the New Zealand national under-17 football team at the 2011 FIFA U-17 World Cup and 3 international appearance for the New Zealand national under-20 football team at the 2013 FIFA U-20 World Cup.--2nyte (talk) 12:32, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are U17 and 20 considered "the highest level of football" per WP:NFOOTBALL? Tarc (talk) 14:31, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails both WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL, Youth international caps do not infer notability; that is long-standing consensus. Giant Snowman 15:08, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - now appears to meet NFOOTBALL following his pro debut; still needs improving & updating to meet GNG. Giant Snowman 16:35, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Wait - he's been named to play for the Phoenix in 2 days time. Think you can wait that long? The-Pope (talk) 15:43, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually he is not in the team.... away on international duty.Simione001 (talk) 23:33, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you let his coach know, he still thinks he's a chance to play at right back. The-Pope (talk) 15:17, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My bad.Simione001 (talk) 01:03, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per GS. WP:NFOOTY is quite clear that international representation has to be at full senior level so the youth appearances noted above do not count, and there is no indication that he achieved anything during these or any other appearances that would ensure a GNG pass. No problem with recreation if he achieves this or plays in an FPL or if he plays at the weekend, the AfD won't be closed by then. Fenix down (talk) 16:07, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - now notable. In the loosest possible sense. Still a GNG failure, but as a young player happy to assume his career will now grow. Fenix down (talk) 08:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. 55 minutes of immense notability. The-Pope (talk) 03:17, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. He played today (poorly, but still).115.188.119.217 (talk) 06:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - as he has (now) played in a fully pro league, we presume that he is notable per WP:NFOOTY. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:06, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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