Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lucas Joseph

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. (aeropagitica) 22:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lucas Joseph

NN musician. Tagged as speedy but page creator insists on removing the tag. Listing here to give him/her a chance to respond. Nominator votes delete. F a ng Aili 17:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Notes on talk and usertalk pages, keeps removing tag after warnings, doesn't meet WP:Music guidelines. TKE 18:01, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's a shame, because it's a nice little article, but he doesn't even seem to have any google hits. Deb 18:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize for removing the tags...I didn't mean to so. I just saw all this text and deleted it because I was editing the entry. He is in the process of getting a record deal and could use the promotion other people who have wikipedia pages dedicated to them recieve. Thank you for your understanding. What do you mean he doesn't seem to have any google hits? He has a popular myspace page and website.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Allgamenab (talk • contribs)

Delete per WP:MUSIC.--Isotope23 18:13, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete NN. Again, Wikipedia does not exist to "promote" unknowns. Fan1967 19:20, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Wikipedia is not a promotional tool, it is an unbiased reference for things that are already noteworthy. Lucas needs a hit record or a concert tour or some independent write-ups of his musicianship that could be used to verify the facts and his noteworthiness. Until then... Thatcher131 19:25, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, non-notable, fails WP:MUSIC, WP:NOT a promotional tool. --Kinu ^t/_c 19:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, non-notable, fails WP:MUSIC, WP:NOT a promotional tool.--SeannyFunco 19:59, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

he exists and is well known locally - I guess that's not enough for wikipedia... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.62.95 (talk • contribs)

Delete as nn. --Ter e nc e Ong 05:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Allgamenab Deizio 13:01, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When he is signed, which will be soon, I will remember how you didn't allow this page to stay up, regardless of the reasoning and I will make sure Lucas does not get a wikipedia article written up about him because this is ridiculous.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.62.95 (talk • contribs)

Comment If he is signed by a major/well-known indie label and puts out a couple of albums or goes on tour, rest assured that someone out there will add him to Wikipedia again... at that point though he will meet WP:MUSIC and his article will belong here.--Isotope23 21:31, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Artists who only have one album have wikpedia articles...even ones that aren't even that well known..I could give you plenty of examples...I'll get others to back me up on this too— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.62.95 (talk • contribs)

Many artists who have only one album released by a major label have articles; I doubt you will find many whose only CDs are independently or self-published. You already admitted you want to use wikipedia for promotion; we have explained wikipedia is not to be used that way. We will be happy to endorse an article when he releases a record under a major label or goes on a national tour or gets significant radio airplay that can be verified. (Most significantly, look at other articles on the AfD list. Try and spot the people who advocate keeping almost anything. They aren't jumping to your defense here, are they. If you want you can userfy the page so can have it ready to go as soon as that first record hits the shelves. Thatcher131 17:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.