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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Trivial list, fails WP:NOT#INFO and WP:TRIVIA, prod removed a while back. Delete Secret account 15:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to some article on football. Is there one on "Foreward pass"? The article is somewhat confusing. It seems to be about the most yardage gained on a passing play. I don't think anyone has passed a football 99 yards. To me this makes the distinction a little more trivial. The longest play possible is 99 yards. There have been passing, running, and kick returns of 99 yards. So what? Northwestgnome (talk) 15:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or (less likely) Merge to List of National Football League records (individual). Since its creation in 2006, this has never been more than a crap article, copied straight out of the NFL record manual. If someone were to try to go beyond the NFL website and try to describe the eleven different events in more detail, in other words "tell us something we don't already know", that would be a worthwhile article. However, the nominator is right that this presentation is trivial and uninformative. And, I would add, boring. As Northwest correctly points out, nobody has caught a 99 yard pass. What happens, of course, is that the receiver catches a pass after getting past the one yard line, then runs the rest of the way for a touchdown. If someone wants to save it, please go beyond this "Look-at-what--I-copied-from-a-book-Mom" article. Mandsford (talk) 15:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]- Keep I found and added
39 refs,coveringthe first 47 of these, but there needs to be an additional text box or fields to be completed, which I am not sure how to format. For instance, in the 1939 entry, I found a paywall article in the NY Times and a description of the play in a book about the Redskins team history. I also found a news story from a 1939 paper. Filchock threw from behind his own goal line on third down in a fake punt play to Farkas, who received on the 3 yard line and ran 97 yards for a touchdown, setting a league record. The line of scrimmage was the 1 yard line. I strongly expect that sportswriters provided at least as much information about each of the other 99 yard pass plays. A pass play from the end zone is a high risk play, compared to a punt, since an interception makes it very likely the other team will score. Edison (talk) 16:49, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply] - Keep I'm changing my vote, since Edison is taking the first step in the task of improving the article. Up until now, this had been nothing more than a xerox of the NFL manual. I'll see if I can't find some links to news stories of the specific games. As a PFRA member, I can say that there are other persons who can probably help this along also. Mandsford (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge There is nothing here but a list of the passes, trim done the uneeded parts and redirect to List of National Football League records (individual) which already has this listed. TJ Spyke 17:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I suggest renaming Longest pass plays in the NFL or even 99 yard pass plays in the NFL for greater accuracy. They are not necessarily the "longest passes that were caught," since one of the passes was 3 yards followed by a run the rest of the length of the field. They are still the longest pass plays, and were notable at the time and in summing up the career highlights of the quarterback and runners when they retired. "Longest" is not an arbitrary criterion. 99 yard pass plays have occurred 11 times in the 88 year history of the league, which currently seems to play over 250 games a year, so they are rare as well as notable. Edison (talk) 18:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - I have cleaned up and expanded the lead, and would like to see this article renamed to 99-yard play, which if necessary, could be made more specific as 99-yard plays in the NFL or 99-yard play (NFL). I would also like to see the table expanded with a column to describe each play-- specify how long the pass was, how many yards were subsequently run, any other interesting specifics about the play, and the outcome of the game, etc. If that would be too much for an additional column, the table could be converted to prose, with one section to describe each play. But now I'm getting off-topic for a deletion discussion. LinguistAtLarge • Msg 19:49, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I strongly urge that the title mention it is "pass plays" since it is also possible to return a kickoff or punt from the 1 yard line for a touchdown. Might it also be possible to run the ball that distance, or to return an interception that distance? A field goal seems beyond possibility outside gale force winds. Edison (talk) 23:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete plain, old, trivia. Marlith (Talk) 05:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- With all due respect, I would like to ask if you have seen the article since my and others edits from on or around January 6th. LinguistAtLarge • Msg 19:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note - I have renamed the article to 99–yard pass play. LinguistAtLarge • Msg 19:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Wikipedia is not an NFL record book. Stifle (talk) 00:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.