Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Long Island Giants

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Deleted (non-admin closure) by User:Pascal.Tesson per ~~CSD A7 - Group/band/club/company/etc; doesn't indicate importance/significance. WilliamH (talk) 10:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)~~ CSD G1, patent nonsense. WilliamH (talk) 10:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Long Island Giants[edit]

I added a PROD tag to this page, on the grounds that it was non-notable, autobiographical, and created specifically for vandalism. User:M.malone.11 removed the PROD tag, saying that it was not an autobiography. The other two concerns still stand. Also, the page was previously speedy deleted under criterion A7 (article does not state subject's significance). — Insanity Incarnat e 21:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I'm suprised it wasn't speedy deleted again under G11. It's non-notable, badly written, no sources and promotional. --neonwhite user page talk 22:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: M.malone.11 (talk · contribs) tried to change this to a "save". Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 22:30, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

save why does it matter if this article stands. There is no reason for it to be deleted in the ways that were stated previously. It is not badly written and whatever sources that are necessary i will provide. Please let me know. user:: m.malone.11. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M.malone.11 (talk • contribs)
Delete I found one mention of the Long Island Giants in 1977 and 1996, but this article states the team started in 2003, so I have to assume its a different team and vote delete as non notable. MMAlone, come back when you've gotten newspapers to write about the team LegoTech·(t)·(c) 23:09, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article states that they are a Little League baseball team, but it looks like a joke article and [this site] seems to indicate they are a minor league football team. The question of deletion hinges on whether there is a real team by that name in whatever sport, and whether that team is notable. Ryan Paddy (talk) 23:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even if there is a real team, deletion and recreation of a proper article if necessary is still the best way to go. --neonwhite user page talk 02:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Why? If there is a notable team by that name the article could just be edited back to stub that represents the real team. Deleting and recreating with the same name would be pointless. But if notability can't be demonstrated then it should be deleted. Ryan Paddy (talk) 03:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it tends to avoid any confusion that may occur from having an article history and a talk page about a different subject. --neonwhite user page talk 03:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Inexplicably, the creator of this article (or at least someone using his account) started vandalizing it himself three minutes after creating it by adding nonsense (such as the team sponsors providing not just equipment and uniforms, but "zebra rides") and gratuitous profanities. But going back to the original text, this team appears to be just a Little League baseball team which would be non-notable under WP:ORG. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per A7 and salt at closer's discretion. (This appears to be a case in which an article might keep being recreated.) Deor (talk) 12:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Completely non-notable local "organization". Doctorfluffy (talk) 19:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for lack of sources that prove notability under WP:ORG.-- danntm ^T _C 22:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What do we need to change for it to stay as an article-Dohertyizzle —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dohertyizzle (talk • contribs) 22:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, if your account is really being hacked, first change your password (click on "my preferences" in the upper right part of the screen). Then look at Wikipedia:ORG#Primary criterion and see what the requirements are to establish notability for a team. Specifically, it would help if you could show that there has been significant coverage of your team in mainstream newspapers, magazines, television programs, books, etc. If there hasn't been, the chance of this article being kept is pretty low. Also, please make sure everything in the article is 100% true and not just a joke or exaggeration. Saying that "The Late and Great Frank Zappa" is a coach of this team makes it sound like Frank Zappa came back from the dead to be a coach. If you have a coach whose name coincidentally is Frank Zappa, not the deceased musician, then don't refer to him as "the late and great". --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also I would like to add that we only created this article to get more notarity and gain more players to join our team. I am apologizing for all the vandalism that went on with that article obviously someone hacked into mine and Malone's account and screwed stuff up —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dohertyizzle (talk • contribs) 22:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 23:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No evidence of notability found via Google. On the bright side, the edit history of this article is pretty funny and so are the writers' comments here. Ryan Paddy (talk) 00:55, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Google is not the only search engine in the world and we are improving a website so it will be up soon okay [personal attack removed]--Dohertyizzle (talk) 01:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Personal attack removed by Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Why do u care so much if this article is up or not is it hurting anybody or screwing up anybody elses paper,We are a real tema i will send you a picture of our team if u really want proof--Dohertyizzle (talk) 01:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, it's hurting the family of the late Frank Zappa, for claiming that he is coaching your team from the grave, for one thing. Also, it's hurting Eric Chavez and Dikembe Mutombo for misrepresenting what they bought for your team, if indeed they bought anything for your team, which I doubt. Are you planning to edit the article to make sure it is true? That would be more helpful even than a picture of the team. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 08:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete as hoax. Compare with earlier AfD on Long Island Beans, which also was a hoax. BRMo (talk) 23:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Tagged as nonsense (CSD G1) - the first two sentences certainly are. B.Wind (talk) 02:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.