Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liz White (politician)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Has been expanded over the course of the AfD, no reason to delete (non-admin closure) treelo _radda 18:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Liz White (politician)

The information on this page can be found in other articles such as the Animal Alliance Environment Voters Party of Canada, just because she is a leader of a one person party does not make her more notable than other canidates running in the Toronto centre riding who do not have a page, if she is elected than she would be notable for a page Landlord77 (talk) 14:39, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - There is no such thing as a federally-registered "one person party"; a party needs to have at least 250 members to register. Moreover, note that WP:OUTCOMES (which is not policy, but a synthesis of past AFDs) notes that "A leader of a duly-registered political party at the state, provincial or federal levels...is notable regardless of that party's degree of electoral success". Sarcasticidealist (talk) 14:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - WP:OUTCOMES also shows that the party leader article should be redirected to the party's main wiki page, until more information about the person can be written. At this point the article material is already covered in the parties page and very little information beyond that she is leader is actually mentioned, minus one sentance. Landlord77 (talk) 15:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
She was the party's only candidate in one particular election, but she isn't its only member. They've had other candidates besides Ms. White (four registered in the current election so far), and as noted by Sarcasticidealist a party has to have at least 250 members to be registered with Elections Canada. Precedent, as summarized at WP:OUTCOMES, does allow for political party leaders to be deemed notable regardless of the party's degree of electoral success, but it does also allow for the article to be redirected to the party's article if it's just a stub which doesn't actually contain any substantial information about the person as a topic independent of the party. Keep if some properly referenced content that's specifically about her can be added; redirect to Animal Alliance Environment Voters Party of Canada if it can't. But deletion simply isn't an option here, because regardless of whether any individual editor is kicky about the party's size, she is a leader of a duly-registered political party. Bearcat (talk) 13:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Animal Alliance Environment Voters Party of Canada until there are adequate WP:Reliable sources for a WP:V, WP:NPOV, and WP:NOR article DoubleBlue (Talk) 18:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep;at least until after the election in, I believe, 15 October 2008. With an election there is heightened interest in which others might add to the article with greater frequency and volume than otherwise. 192.30.202.21 (talk) 19:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There is a long-standing consensus that leaders are registered political parties are notable; I don't see any need to make an exception in this case (and particularly not during an election). CJCurrie (talk) 22:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It still needs references. Bearcat (talk) 15:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The Animal Alliance is running four candidates in this federal election it clearly has more then 1 member. Liz White is a the leader of the party and in that long standing tradition it makes her notable.--Cloveious (talk) 17:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While you're correct that this rules out deletion as an option here, it doesn't address the equally-established precedent that an unreferenced article about a minor party leader should be redirected to the party until such time as sufficiently verifiable reliable sources about her as an independent topic can actually be added. Bearcat (talk) 18:26, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If she is notable, then she should be noted somewhere. I can find no information about her for a proper bio. Any news stories that mention her only do so in passing that she is the leader of AAVE Party of Canada or as the source for a quote. Without reliable sources about her, I can see no possibility of a proper biography and danger of violating WP:BLP. DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It took me about 5 seconds with google to find a bio to reference.[1] and [2]--Cloveious (talk) 04:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would seem one of your references indicate two different Liz Whites, or am I mistaken? The other website only indicates she is the leader of the party which is a lik present on the party's wiki pageLandlord77 (talk) 16:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, in view of the work done on the article since it was nominated for deletion. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 12:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

commentIn view of the article expansion which is in great effort, there is still minimal information about her and more about the party which should be said in the a party's wiki page. Im not anal about my opinion if others disagree with me thats fine, but thats just how i read the articleLandlord77 (talk) 15:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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