Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of youngest fathers

List of youngest fathers

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Not an encyclopedic topic for a list. Previously deleted at AfD (WP:Articles for deletion/List of youngest birth mothers). Highly misleading in its current form, which only cherry picks mentions among mostly historical figures and would seem to suggest that this was somehow associated with royalty, and as per the AfD, would be grossly inappropriate if expanded and populated. Not to mention that it's purely WP:original synthesis from sources that mention nothing about youngest fathers, and that the arbitrary age cut-off is nothing special, probably satisfied by millions of people. Paul_012 (talk) 21:57, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Paul_012 (talk) 21:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it does meet WP:NLIST, therefore meets WP:GNG. Furthermore, I should expand these references via https://www.businessinsider.com/celebrities-who-became-dads-at-a-young-age-2022-6 through the age of 20. Absolutiva (talk) 22:21, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutiva: Can you explain how this meets WP:NLIST? Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:35, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Only notable cases (with blue links) I added, but two of them are WP:EXEMPT1E. But in my previous draft, I expanded some people who became fathers at a young age that exceeds 18 to 20 years (in the time of age of majority). As a good example of notable cases involved with spermarche, ranging from 12 to 14 years of age. Absolutiva (talk) 03:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutiva: This doesn't explain how this list meets NLIST; rather, it explains how individuals would qualify for the list. The topics of stand-alone lists must be notable themselves. This is often understood to mean that the subject of the list has been discussed in reliable, secondary sources. At present, the article doesn't have any sources that discuss the grouping or set. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and WP:SALT per WP:No original research. This list is pure WP:SYNTH, and the topic is not discussed in this way in any of the sources. Taking modern human biology studies and then superimposing them into an original pseudoscientific historical analysis is a no-no under our policies.4meter4 (talk) 22:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just like I discussed at Wikipedia talk:Notability#Notability and youngest people, about cases of young people and lists, as well as WP:EXEMPT1E. Absolutiva (talk) 22:30, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as this fails NLIST without any sources discussing the category at hand. As such, this list is no more notable than it was at the previous AFD. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See explanation above, as an example of cases involving semenarche as well as adolescent sexuality. Absolutiva (talk) 03:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]