Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the best-selling boy bands in Asia

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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 13:05, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of the best-selling boy bands in Asia[edit]

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Same problems as these previous lists this same editor created: List of the best selling boyband in the world & List of the best-selling boyband in the world which have been deleted. Also similar lists has been deleted multiple times in the past: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of best-selling boy bands (2nd nomination). Basically this list is entirely original research, there's no official charts for boy bands alone, so although sales figures are cited, combining them in this way is original synthesis. The inclusion criteria of what a "boy band" is arbitrary. Krystaleen 04:02, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is that you ? LOL what a stalker. You must be jelous and a plain haters IMO .

To admin,

The page does not had any problem so far as the source are stated and directly taken from legit site such as Oricon Official Chart, RIAJ Official Chart / site and etc. For the catogery of Boyband, several group like B'z and many other are not included because they are known more as Rock-band pr just a band. Its like when people and World in general rarely refer to The Beatles as boyband . For the proof and support my statement, peopłe are aware that Backstreetboy is officially the best selling boy band in the world by over 180 million records, what does this tell us ? Yes thats right, The Beatles obviously did not include on this list. Reason ? Because they are known as Rock Band or a BAND. How can you tell ? Well, of The Beatles is include among Boyband catogery, Backstreetboy would never officually dub as the best selling boyband in the world in first place. Instead , The Beatles would take that title because they sold around 600 million records . However, in this case they are not consider as Boyband, thus Backstreetboy grab the title of Best selling boyband in the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MugenDarkness (talk • contribs) 04:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MugenDarkness, please assume good faith. Calling someone "jealous" or a "stalker" (among other things) does not reflect well on you and actually puts you at risk of getting blocked for making personal attacks. The thing is, without some official chart or list that specifically focuses on boy bands, there's not really a good way to definitively back this up. The term "boy band" can be considered fairly loose, to be honest, and there are articles that compare the Beatles to a boy band - some of which are through MTV. ([1], [2]) Would I consider them a boy band? No, but I can somewhat see where some people get the claims from, at least from the band's early days. However I'm pointing this out to show how loose this term can be for many areas, which is why you will need to find an official list of some sort that clearly labels boy bands. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I notice that you have been blocked three times already for edit warring and disruptive editing. If I or anyone else have to warn you about your tone, you will be facing another block - possibly permanently. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:19, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The sources used do not have subentries for boy bands or girl groups or other type of genre, just a combined synthesis of sourced information, which makes this WP:OR. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 05:36, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Which of the references define these groups as boy bands and exclude other groups? Clearly this is WP:OR. - David Biddulph (talk) 06:24, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- 1Wiki8Q5G7FviTHBac3dx8HhdNYwDVstR (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- 1Wiki8Q5G7FviTHBac3dx8HhdNYwDVstR (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Asia-related deletion discussions. -- 1Wiki8Q5G7FviTHBac3dx8HhdNYwDVstR (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Um, no. That user had been dissatified about me before, i had a debate and doubt her credibility because there are a currently event happend that she edit Wiki page based on her own " experience " LOL and ignore the actual fact, prove , feat and real event.

if you want, i can include groups like B'z , LArc en Ciel and many others on the list IMO. That would settle both issue and prevent this page from being deleted . Lets see what kind of excuse that user might bring after this solve — Preceding unsigned comment added by MugenDarkness (talk • contribs) 09:02, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MugenDarkness, You need to provide sources that clearly define the term boy band and also clearly identify the aforementioned bands as the best selling and as a boy band. The term is an extremely loose one, which is what is posing the biggest issue here. While it's nowhere near as nasty as your comments before, your post here brushes dangerously close to being a bad faith statement. The user in question is not the point of this AfD (comment on the article, not the editor) and I'll be honest, I've found that people making comments like yours makes people less likely to assume good faith from you and see things your way. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(User has now been blocked - they were warned about making personal attacks at 3RR and a block was mentioned at one point. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:18, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as this has no signs of improvement. SwisterTwister talk 02:03, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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