Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of schools in Pakistan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete, default to keep. Sandstein 09:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of schools in Pakistan

Delete per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of schools in India - Unmaintainable, incomplete, unverifiable and a category would suffice. Also WP:NOT#DIRECTORY as in WP is not a directory (of schools in Pakistan) Corpx 20:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and cleanup, probably by restricting to schools with articles or proven notability. It's more useful than the category system because it provides because it provides the city in many cases. Kappa 21:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Schools in Pakistan already does that. Corpx 21:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The category does it randomly, depending on whether the school article has the city in its name or not. Kappa 23:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Schools in Islamabad , Category:Schools in Karachi, Category:Schools in Sindh, Category:Schools in Punjab (Pakistan), Category:Schools in North-West Frontier Province all group schools by their locations. Corpx 16:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes Islamabad and Karachi are cities but Punjab and NWFP are provinces. If I'm looking for articles on schools in Lahore, Punhjab, for example, the list will tell me instantly but the category forces a lot of guesswork. Kappa 02:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Contains many schools that do not yet have articles, and thereby encourages the creation of missing articles, which will address systemic bias against developing countries. Mowsbury 21:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete - a category would suffice, and would be more appropriate to the task if it's to be limited to notable schools as has been suggested.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by SemperFideliS81 (talk • contribs)

Delete just like List of schools in India. "Systemic bias against developing countries"? Nonsense. --Targeman 16:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I recommend this vote be discounted on grounds of extreme ignorance. Kappa 16:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anything to support your claim, perhaps? About the bias, that is. --Targeman 16:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please look in Category:High schools in California and compare the number of articles with the entire Category:Schools in Pakistan. Kappa 03:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, of course there are more articles on American schools than on Pakistani: there are many more users from the US than from anywhere else, and many if not most of them are teenagers. BTW, I think List of high schools in California and the like should be scrapped as listcruft, too. The overwhelming majority of schools anywhere are not notable and will never be. --Targeman 12:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete per nom and SemperFideliS81. Or make it a Category. Bearian 20:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete The categories mentionned above should be enough and should be like this for all countries.--JForget 22:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Categories only cover articles that exist, not articles that should exist but do not yet.Dhaluza 22:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep encyclopedic list. Also see: WP:BIAS. Dhaluza 22:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. — Dhaluza 22:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
comment-maybe a category for such schools might be more useful than a list for a large populous nation? Chris 01:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, categories only work for articles that exist, not for articles not yet created. Dhaluza 01:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Articles shouldn't be created for schools that dont pass the notability guideline Corpx 01:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eventually the list will need to be split, perhaps along the lines of things like list of high schools in California. Once all the sub-lists had been created, the main list would be redundant with a category, so we have Category:lists of schools in the United States but not a List of schools in the United States.

Keep as an encyclopedic, useful list -- not all schools on it need to have articles for the list to be useful, and yes, it should be broken up into smaller geographic regions if the list simply gets too long. Noroton 15:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Noroton, break up into small regions if need be, and definitely remove any unsourced material. Burntsauce 22:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 01:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep without much enthusiasm. I have never been much of an advocate of lists, far preferring categories, but this one is organised in a way that makes the geographical interrelationships much clearer than would be possible with categories. Also, the point is valid that the red links assist and guide article development. TerriersFan 03:12, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.