Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of religious ideas in fantasy fiction

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:22, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of religious ideas in fantasy fiction[edit]

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WP:OR, poorly sourced, fails WP:NLIST. Similar problems are found in List of religious ideas in science fiction and List of fictional religions which likely need their own AfDs. On a side note, this list even confuses fantasy with science fiction (since it lists an example from WH40K). Pretty bad case of WP:NOTTVTROPES too. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:06, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy, Religion, and Lists. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:06, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see much merit in that article as it stands. It would need much tighter definition to be useful. The inclusion of "Good versus Evil" in its "Morality" sub-section broadens its scope to a completely impractical extent; nearly all of fictional literature deals with good versus evil at some level. In any case, morality and religion aren't the same; they overlap, but there are plenty of people and societies that have no religion and nevertheless have morals. I have much more sympathy with a List of fictional religions, because that's defined, and probably someone's written about them, and it's a useful navigational aid for readers. But if the list of religious ideas in fantasy fiction is to be kept, it needs redefinition and extensive pruning. Elemimele (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This concept would have merit as "Fantasy fiction and religion" because that could be defined as a discussion of religion, both as allegory and in fictional structures, and morality in fantasy fiction—of which there is definitely scholarship—but a glossary / itemized list / index like this is pretty useless. ~Cheers, Ten Ton Parasol 02:19, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As usual, a properly sourced, prose-based article on religion in fiction may be what we need. What we have, sadly, is another excuse for WP:TNT... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:47, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete WP:COATRACK minus the underlying coatrack. Just random things amalgamated into an “article” Dronebogus (talk) 10:36, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The subject matter is interesting and useful. The sections that veers towards WP:OR should have citation-requied tags added. Rick Jelliffe (talk) 00:12, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ITSINTERESTING + wP:ITSUSEFUL? You are new to AfDs, I gather? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:06, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The idea that all religious ideas in fantasy fiction could ever be comprehensively listed like this is laughable. Maybe a non-list article could be created on this topic, but in its current form it's just not a good concept as an article. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:46, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Hemiauchenia Working on that (prose). See fictional religion for now :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:15, 5 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.