Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of reality legal programming
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 03:40, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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"Reality legal programming" does not seem to be an actual defined term. This list has been completely unsourced since 2010 and has not improved; in fact, until earlier today, "list of" was not part of the article's name due to an against-consensus move. Prod declined without comment. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:13, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Lists. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 01:13, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Neutral(changed vote) I did too give a reason when I removed your prod. [1] I clearly said (valid list article). There was no "against-consensus move", that not making any sense at all. There was no discussion for it, nor needed one, it just a common sense thing. This is a list article, so "list of" should be in the name. Valid navigational list, it linking to Wikipedia articles logically grouped together. Reality television is well known, the article defines its purpose as listing those with "reality-based subjects having to do with law, such as police, crime, litigation". So clear inclusion criteria. Dream Focus 01:58, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- How is it valid if "legal reality programming" is not a thing that exists? Lists still need to be sourced, and about a topic that actually exists. You could easily make a verifiable list of "list of TV shows whose titles begin with the letter W", "list of TV shows whose first episode aired on a Thursday", or "list of sitcoms that still use a laugh track in 2022", but that's not an encyclopedic topic. By whose standards is any given show about litigation or crime and a reality series? Both halves of that statement would need to be verified, and sources would need to prove that this is a noteworthy intersection of genres. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:03, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- This article is in the categories of category:Legal television series and category:Reality television. Both of these things exist, the page is dedicated to listing things in both of these categories. Can rename it to List of reality television programs involving the law.
- Reality_television#Court_shows has a link to this page. Category:Reality television series by genre has Category:Court_shows in it. A page with just the many court shows in it would be a valid one. Just having similar themed things all in one list makes sense though. Whoops, I just noticed List of court shows already exist.
- So does List of reality television programs. It seems everything is already listed elsewhere so perhaps this article is not needed. Dream Focus 17:47, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- How is it valid if "legal reality programming" is not a thing that exists? Lists still need to be sourced, and about a topic that actually exists. You could easily make a verifiable list of "list of TV shows whose titles begin with the letter W", "list of TV shows whose first episode aired on a Thursday", or "list of sitcoms that still use a laugh track in 2022", but that's not an encyclopedic topic. By whose standards is any given show about litigation or crime and a reality series? Both halves of that statement would need to be verified, and sources would need to prove that this is a noteworthy intersection of genres. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:03, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:11, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: The article is on a made-up topic, which only exists because the creator of the article says it exists. Isn't that a criteria for speedy deletion? Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 05:57, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Due to WP:SYNTH. MrsSnoozyTurtle 04:57, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete WP:SYNTH WP:OR stub list that would be a category if it was an actual topic anyway. Dronebogus (talk) 22:13, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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