Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of quotes from Shakespeare in Brave New World

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was transwiki to Wikiquote. —Kurykh 19:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of quotes from Shakespeare in Brave New World[edit]

~~Delete~~ Transwiki - WIkipedia is not a collection of trivia. A listing of quotes from one author in another author's book is not encyclopedic. It tells us nothing about the book, nothing about the source of the quotes, nothing about either author or the real world. Otto4711 14:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, lists of quotes are unacceptable for Wikipedia, WP:FIVE. --Eyrian 14:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki to wikiquotes Corpx 15:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki. Useful, an obvious theme of the book; but Wikiquote is where this belongs. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question: If the full text of the quotes themselves are transwiki'd, the article retitled Use of Shakespeare in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World (or whatever), and real-world analyses such as this [1]] added...then would a list of links to the wikiquote material be appropriate? Canuckle 17:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a retitle, that's a completely different article. --Eyrian 17:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you could move the article, add a ref like the above to the introduction and leave it as a stub for future development. I've seen that outcome from AfDs before. But you didn't answer my question. Once the literary source is transwiki'd to wikisouce, would it be appropriate for a list of links to that source? Not full text, but in Chapter 1 Savage quotes from (link to wikisource quote from Julius Caesar).Canuckle 18:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if that kind of list (one work quoting another) is appropriate for Wikiquote, but if so, then I'd say yes. --Eyrian 18:18, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move article to Brave New World's use of Shakespeare. Remove quotes from article and place them in Talk page for reference. If I understand right, one character speaks in Shakespeare quotes. The use of Shakespeare in the novel appears like an encyclopedic topic but even if the use had real-world analysis, a wholesale list of this character's dialogue is unnecessary. Canuckle 20:18, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Scratch that. Having read source more closely, it says these references are for the most part casual and ornamental, not functional, and do not constitute a pattern of sustained allusion. A comparison with The Tempest could be made but that seems significantly different in scope than this list's goal. Best for that development to start on novel's main page Canuckle 20:29, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

and as per WP:NOT#DIR - list of quotations are specifically identified as not wanted. Canuckle 16:26, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Hard to see that this list is encyclopedic, or that there is a common theme of this set of quotes that makes it worthy of being preserved in Wikiquote. Having looked at the JSTOR article linked by Canuckle , I find it conceivable that someone could write a WP article called Brave New World and the Tempest, and collect opinons from various secondary sources about that issue. But that would be a whole other article. No objection if Canuckle wants to userfy this and start writing a proper article under a new title. EdJohnston 15:48, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki to Wikiquote, obviously. EdJohnston, I don't see why this is not worthy of being preserved in Wikiquote; it is Shakespeare, after all. Mel sa ran (formerly Salaskаn) 16:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.