Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the postage stamps of Nicaragua

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The result was delete. Doczilla _{@SUPERHEROLOGIST} 19:32, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of people on the postage stamps of Nicaragua

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Fails WP:LISTN. Also same issues as most of these lists, many of them already deleted. Incomplete, largely abandoned since 2007, not of interest to readers. Fram (talk) 07:16, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Nicaragua. Fram (talk) 07:16, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This clearly does not meet the inclusion criteria we have for lists. A list like this belongs on Wikia, not in Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:13, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As per rationale applying to other lists of this nature. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:38, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't think we should conclude that this subject is not notable just because some other similar topics were found not notable. Let's judge each topic on it's individual merits please. A minority of similar lists were also kept because sources supported their notability. I think it is a notable topic, as per the independent, coverage as follows:

Discussion about individuals on Nicaraguan postage stamps here: Child, Jack. “The Politics and Semiotics of the Smallest Icons of Popular Culture: Latin American Postage Stamps.” Latin American Research Review, vol. 40, no. 1, 2005, pp. 108–37. JSTOR, http://www.jstor.org/stable/1555367. Accessed 22 Jun. 2022.
Brief mention of three Nicaraguan stamp collectors appearing on stamps here: GRIFFENHAGEN, G. Stamp Collectors on Stamps: Mekeel’s & Stamps Magazine, [s. l.], v. 198, n. 26, p. 16–17, 2006. Disponível em: https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=f6h&AN=21597548&site=eds-live&scope=site. Acesso em: 22 jun. 2022.
Talks about Karl Marx, George Washington and Pope John Paul II on Nicaraguan postage stamps: Altman, Page Dennis. "Looking at Stamps." Border/Lines 13 (1988) (available in full via Google Scholar) CT55555 (talk) 15:49, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- - That the topic of people on postage stamps receives some coverage just means that a general discussion of it can be found in Postage stamps and postal history of Nicaragua (which is at present a shockinly insufficinet article, and really needs additions and expansion). To justify this article we would in my view need to have at least one if not multiple reliable sources that feel a need to include the whole of this list.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:NLIST appears to be at odds with your view: The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability CT55555 (talk) 16:33, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - No, but the "general topic" needs to be documented, not some minor subset like stamp collectors. Fram (talk) 16:36, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      I consider that the "general topic" is people on Nicaraguan stamps. I've provided sources about royalty and their family, about Marx, G Washington and a pope and about people who collect stamps. They are people, they are on Nicaraguan postage stamps. I think that is exactly what the subject is.
      
      I think it's normal for subjects to be covered in part by multiple sources. The article on Spain is probably based on various books, some about history, some about culture, some about food, there might not be one book that covers everything about Spain. A list about big tornadoes in Mexico would be made from sources that cover different tornadoes, maybe a book about 1990s tornadoes, a news report about a recent one, there won't be one all encompassing source. I think I'm in normal territory for lists notability here. CT55555 (talk) 16:43, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't access the first 2 at the moment, but the third has all of 2 sentences about people on stamps, in a longer paragraph about Nicaraguan politics and stamps (e.g. stamps showing an incorrect borderline, and a stamp showing a volcano). An interesting addition to an article about the postal history of Nicaragua, but hardly convincing to keep this list. Fram (talk) 16:36, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The first one has the most content. The second one is a passing mention. The third one is a sentence or so. Please judge notability base on the sum of all sources. CT55555 (talk) 16:37, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, even if we can source that these people existed on stamps, there are no sources explaining why cataloging this is noteworthy. Same as all the others. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:25, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"All the others"? While most similar AfDs resulted in delete, some were kept: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the postage stamps of the Faroe Islands, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the postage stamps of Romania

Please assess each article based on its individual merits. CT55555 (talk) 20:30, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think the implication of "all the others that were closed as delete" is obvious enough. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:52, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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