Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people from the Eastern Cape

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Sandstein 12:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of people from the Eastern Cape

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Doesn't meet WP:LISTN - not notable as a group DannyS712 (talk) 15:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. DannyS712 (talk) 15:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:LISTPURP as a standard index of notable people and per WP:CLN as a complement to Category:People from the Eastern Cape. People by political subdivision is a completely standard way of indexing them by lists or categories. LISTN is not helpful or relevant here. postdlf (talk) 20:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If WP:LISTN isn't relevant, what is the correct notability guideline to apply? DannyS712 (talk) 20:30, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
LISTN itself expresses the limit of its scope, and notes it is "one accepted reason" (i.e., sufficient but not necessary). It depends on what the list is classifying, and WP:CSC is often cited on that point. For a list like this, we'd expect the place to be notable as well as each individual person listed, but no further notability requirement makes sense; it really is parallel to the category because it's classifying the exact same entries by the same facts. postdlf (talk) 21:43, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. There will be such a massive list of people from the Eastern Cape that would make both the list (and category) unwieldy. Unless it can be split into more finite geographical areas. Ajf773 (talk) 02:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- ”We may have to split it eventually” is not a deletion argument. Your comment also shows you haven’t even bothered to look at the category to see how many articles and subcategories there are. This is no different than listing U.S. people by state. Such lists can always be subdivided into smaller areas, or by subject’s occupation. postdlf (talk) 13:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:29, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, if this list is covering too large a geographical area what about List of South Africans? note: i am not endorsing the deletion of either, actually a keep for this list as fullfilling a navigational purpose. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:26, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:LC items 3, 4, 7, and 11. Stifle (talk) 10:54, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Qualifies for an article per WP:NOTDUP relative to Category:People from the Eastern Cape. This is not an indiscriminate list: it only contains blue links to notable subjects on English Wikipedia, existing as a refined list with a narrow scope. It is not a long list, and even if it was to become one, articles can be WP:SPLIT when needed. Also, WP:LC is an opinion essay, and is not a guideline-based page regarding deletion. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If something like "List of people from Louisiana" can exist, then this list-article can too. It meets WP:LISTN. LefcentrerightTalk (plz ping) 21:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus appears to be building that the list is notable but additional input would be useful. Does it meet WP:LISTPURP?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ifnord (talk) 21:29, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, b uidhe 15:25, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:NLIST criteria. Aides navigation and provides information. Many blue links. Lightburst (talk) 02:03, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.