Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of organizers

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The result was delete. Sandstein 06:17, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of organizers

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I suspect that this was meant to be a list of union or community organizers but have no way to tell. See Category:Community organizers. The creator hasn't edited for several years, and Barack Obama is included. With no inclusion criteria I think this would be better gotten rid of. Moondyne (talk)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 04:55, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Could contain almost anyone. Unmanagable indiscriminate list. duffbeerforme (talk) 09:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ - There is indeed a way to tell — this is a list of union organizers, to which somebody wrongly added Obama. Although I realize that it's generally not good to change names of articles once they're reeled in to AfD, I'm going to boldly do that (and knock Barry off the list), since the principle objection here is that the name is indiscriminate. Carrite (talk) 16:24, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Upon further review, that list mixes political organizers and union organizers. Both of those lists would be fine, in my opinion, the combined list is not. Best to blow it up to clear the way for properly delineated lists, in my view. Carrite (talk) 16:27, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. & others. Too vague & WP:INDISCRIMINATE.--JayJasper (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The term "community organizer" is used in the news media and history books. The list should separate them all into various groups though, for women's rights, rights of blacks, rights of workers, etc. Dream Focus 14:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Dream Focus 14:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I have begun added references to some of the entries in the article. Rather easy to find. I also wrote a clear definition for entry onto the list. Perhaps a navigable chart could be made, where you have the name, years active, what they were organizing for, and a link to any organizations they were part of. Dream Focus 14:46, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Note - This article has been renamed (by another editor) to List of community organizers. Northamerica1000^(talk) 15:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as too indiscriminate. I think DF has the right idea in terms of introducing subcategories to the article in order to make a bit more sense of things, but I suspect that you could subsequently end up with an almost infinite list of subcategories. At the very least, and for the moment, moving the article from "List of organizers" to "List of community organizers" is a clear improvement ("List of organizers" is, I dunno, a bit on the hilarious side). ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 18:20, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If Obama is on the list, we need to retitle him as Barack Hussein Obama with a little sneer from Rush Limbaugh.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 18:35, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

LOL ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 18:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. A confusing list that could and right now does include a wide variety of people, but no clear criteria for being included. Better to delete it entirely. If it is not deleted, I am contemplating adding Thomas Paine and Sam Adams to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dthomsen8 (talk • contribs)
People who are notable enough to have a Wikipedia article for them, and who are defined as a community organizer, who are famous and well covered in history books for having organized people for a social cause. Dream Focus 00:47, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm adding Adolf Hitler, then. oops ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 04:59, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is neutral. Hitler is on the list of vegetarians after all. Dream Focus 08:24, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Adolf Hitler, John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Jesus Christ, Muhammad, Bono, Mohatma Gandhi, Osama bin Laden, Buddha, Che Guevara, William Joseph Simmons,activists, politicians... ɠǀɳ̩ςεΝɡbomb 16:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - too broad. Almost all local politicians might be described as "community organizers". --He to Hecuba (talk) 09:56, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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