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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep, lists of this type may require regular updating and by definition are likely to never be complete but that isn't a valid reason for deletion. (non-admin close) RMHED (talk) 19:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- List of memoirs of political prisoners (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
An incomplete and unreferenced list. Would be better off as a category. Tavix (talk) 23:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - this could never be a complete list, but it would be a perfect category, as Tavix suggests. Frank | talk 23:55, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nominator. I am sure that references could be found, however this page will never be fully finished. Dreamafter (talk) 23:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep for the nth time, categories and lists are not contradictory. If you think a category would be helpful, make one. I think thisis better, actually, because it permits giving some context. a category does not. Sources should be added, but, frankly, most or all are pretty self-explanatory and any challenged ones can be discussed. What would help is to have some kind of order, preferably chronological. DGG (talk) 00:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. It is arguable that this list is not maintainable, however, the subset of notable memoirs/memoirs of notable political prisoners is limited, and as stated above, the list allows the inclusion of context where a category would not. Referencing can be done either with a link to the memoir page or to the relevant subsection of the author page. As DGG suggests, a re-ordering would be useful. Hal peridol (talk) 01:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I am really not clear on what the "will never be fully finished" argument means. By the same measure, Wikipedia will never be fully finished, as it will always contain articles on existing countries, living people, and so forth. This is a list that complies with WP:CLS. That said, some of the formatting is more reminiscent of a bibliography, and those have been problematic before as there is no real standard for standalone bibliographies at the moment. This should be formatted more with an eye to encyclopedic, sourced commentary, rather than just worldcat-style publication data. --Dhartung | Talk 07:03, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Incomplete and none-too-helpful mini-list. Ecoleetage (talk) 11:02, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, though I wouldn't be opposed to creation of a category instead. It's described as a "list of writers who have described their experiences of being political prisoners", which is slightly ambiguous, and needs clarification. However, if it is understood to mean "list of memoirs in which the authors described...", then the inclusion criteria are quite clear and straightforward, meeting WP:SAL. Moreover, the topic of "memoirs of political prisoners" is notable, as evidenced by, for example, this and this. Jakew (talk) 22:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: The number of notable political prisoners is limited. Hence it will be easy to maintain a list of memoirs of notable political prisoners throughout the history and probably this may be promoted to featured list status. References can be easily found because they are available in plenty. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 04:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.