Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of mass shootings in Switzerland

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus to delete; strong suggestion to merge. There appears to be a general consensus that the information should remain in Wikipedia, and probably in a form that is merged with List of massacres in Switzerland. The decisions regarding exactly what that merge will look like is outside the scope of this AfD, and would better be taken to the talk pages of the articles in question. Joyous! | Talk 02:49, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of mass shootings in Switzerland[edit]

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There's already an article about mass murders in Switzerland which includes mass shootings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Switzerland Abatementyogin (talk) 23:43, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Lists, and Switzerland. Skynxnex (talk) 02:51, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This article has far more content than List_of_massacres_in_Switzerland. You should've just started a merge request instead of a deletion discussion. Dream Focus 11:40, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree! This important information should be kept on the encyclopedia. Maybe they could add a "shootings" section to the List_of_massacres_in_switzerland Radiatoraligator (talk) 18:56, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A merge or an edit to include the mass shootings that are listed here that resulted in 4 deaths would work too.Abatementyogin (talk) 19:54, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I edited the massacres/mass murders in Switzerland page to include some of the notable entries that are listed here but weren't over there. There's still an incident from the 1940s and 1920s I've yet to include but will soon. I'm using the FBI definition of mass murder listed here: https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder/serial-murder-july-2008-pdf It's the same definition the mass murders in Australia page uses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia Lemme know if there's any concerns Abatementyogin (talk) 22:05, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
added said incidents to the page. shouldn't be any issues now Abatementyogin (talk) 06:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Very few events from last 110 years to make a list. --Yoonadue (talk) 14:50, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as an appropriate list. Paucity of entries compared to universal firearms access is itself notable. Jclemens (talk) 20:24, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to List of massacres in Switzerland, where this subject was already covered, albeit with less sourcing. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Jclemens. MelatoninEmbryo (talk) 20:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge back as a fork. Bearian (talk) 19:47, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep There's a category error here. The topics, and thus inclusion criteria, are different. The definition of mass shooting varies, but generally speaking, authoritative sources define it as three or four people shot (killed OR injured) not shot dead. Massacres require four or more dead. I also don't see how the encyclopedia or its users gain by eliminating well-sourced information about shootings with four casualties but not four deaths. OsFish (talk) 02:33, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.