Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, April 2015

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus appears to favor keeping the article, so I am going to close the discussion. (non-admin closure) Kevin Rutherford (talk) 11:25, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, April 2015

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I believe this subject matter is not noteworthy of wikipedia. Also all of the crimes commited by the suspects in this article are tagged only as "alleged " crimes. This article seems to exist soley to slander law enforcement. TucsonDavidU.S.A. 23:40, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, this subject matter is perfectly reasonable. This page simply exists to list US fatalities caused by Law Enforcement Officers and the circumstances involved, nothing more. There isn't any conclusion on whether the killings were justifiable or not, it is simply stating known facts. So I don't see how it could be construed as slander. In fact, in many cases listed, the fatality does in fact seem perfectly justifiable, while other incidents do raise questions. However, the reader is left to draw their own conclusions and do their own further research. I do not believe this article deserves deletion, but continuance. Keep --DSmythSoCal (talk) 00:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NOTCLEANUP, this is a WP:NPOV issue that can be fixed by a rewrite of the disputed sections. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I believe the page should continue to exist and that the table should be amended to include a column for references/sources of information for each entry. Unfortunately, I am not so adept at Wikipedia that I would know how to do this. - Taltruth (talk)

Keep I think this issue of regular fatalities caused by law enforcement is very pertinent. Hence, i think notability is there. I agree with other editors some sort of amendment may be needed. -- Fotoriety (talk) 01:24, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This is a topic that has drawn widespread media attention of late. The list is reliably sourced and meets WP:GNG. A serious deletion request should address the series of articles we have for each month since 2012 in Category:Lists of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 01:50, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep - There are dozens of pages of this sort; Are we suggesting that all should be done away with? As for the question of citations, I think that (as with all articles and all but the most self-evident assertions of facts) there should be proper citations included, and that is even more important when dealing with controversial subject matter. As for the assertion about this page "only existing to slander law enforcement" I think that is a very questionable assertion. Let's look at it from another angle - If (hypothetically) there are half a dozen instances where a police officer shot a suspect who was in fact a violent, immediate threat to the community, and those violent, immediate threats were evident (and cited), and those were listed along side the Walter Scott incident, then reading about those incidents might lead some readers to the opposite conclusion than one that would be brought by intentional slander of the police. At the same time of course, we ought to err on the side of caution and refer to actions (and certainly motivations) as "alleged", unless and until there is documentable evidence to back up our assertions. Let's discuss further if needed. KConWiki (talk) 01:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This article is part of a series (List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States) that covers many decades. Deleting one page is senseless. Content is sourced and notable. WWGB (talk) 02:38, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep This is a longstanding series of pages designed to track notable police killings. It's modern relevance could not be understated in today's social climate. Don4of4 ^[Talk] 05:35, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Murder is a crime, unless it is done by a policeman, or an aristocrat! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 06:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Police deserves support and respect but you can not generally put an institutions reputation above the right of citizens to live and not to be harmed. Thus reasoning for a deletion this way is absolutely wrong as its wrong to bend or prevent justice for the same purpouse. This is without doubt an major sociological issue in America for some time now and thus the matter deserves many articles including this list. --Kharon (talk) 07:35, 21 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.