Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of hotels in Mumbai

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. –MuZemike 00:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of hotels in Mumbai[edit]

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WP is not a directory or a travel guide. Codf1977 (talk) 15:31, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep there are lots article like List of hotels of the London, Midland and Scottish Railway, List of largest hotels in the world, List of hotels in Dubai, List of Las Vegas Strip hotels and so on, Also there are more than 50% of names in the list having there own articles. If anything is required to make this article more suitable let me know, I will improve it. KuwarOnline ^Talk 15:48, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It is pretty well referenced and everything there is verifiable. Only notable hotels are on the list and for having over thirty hotels on that list, it shows that it is obviously a notable topic. Tavix | Talk 17:20, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it was only notable hotels then you may have a point - but it is not. Codf1977 (talk) 17:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Most of them are notable. Just because a couple of them are redlinked does not make my point invalid. Redlinks help article growth... Tavix | Talk 20:22, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't think they are - see analysis below. Codf1977 (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- Tavix | Talk 17:22, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- Tavix | Talk 17:22, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The comment below notwithstanding, removing non-notable entries can be done by editing, and therefore it is not a valid reason to delete, per deletion policy.--Cyclopia ^talk 18:19, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - KuwarOnline (talk · contribs) is currently attempting to votestack by canvassing editors (like me) that would probably argue for keeping (I would do in fact, but now that I've been canvassed I feel uncomfortable doing that): see [1] , [2], [3], [4]. I think the editor is somehow in good faith in seeking for help, but better to explain him that he's just shooting himself in the foot this way. --Cyclopia ^talk 18:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -I was doing what called Friendly notices not only editor who supported keep but also the editors who supported delete see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Software Companies in India but unfortunately you just noticed keep editors see User talk:Sodabottle, User talk:Deepak D'Souza who supported delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Software Companies in India, Certainly I am not doing attempting to votestack or neither I asked any editor to vote in my favor. Just asked to vote as per there view please see there talk pages, where i m requesting them to express there suggestions/opinion. Please dont feel that you are being canvassed. KuwarOnline ^Talk 18:55, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment notwithstanding the alleged votestacking- I am kind of neutral, swaying towards delete on articles with names in the following format "List of <type of business> in <city>". IT industry in India is a different thing. The best thing to do is to write an article called Hotels in Mumbai and merge the list to that article. I wouldn't mind a fork if required later.--^Nilotpal42 19:14, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - most of them are blue links. --Sodabottle (talk) 19:30, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But not to articles about the given hotels :

Of the 41 Hotels listed only FIVE have there own article :

Taj Mahal Palace & Tower also listed as Taj Lands End and Taj President
JW Marriott, Mumbai
Courtyard by Marriott Mumbai
Oberoi Trident
Four Seasons Hotel Mumbai

THREE point to WP articals un-related to India or Mumbai

Ambassador Hotel - to a hotel in LA
Palms Hotel - is in Nevada
The Retreat - is a 'place in England for the treatment of people with mental health needs. '

THIRTEEN point to articles about the company that owns the hotel.

the other EIGHTEEN hotels listed have no links or a 'red-links'. Codf1977 (talk) 22:45, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, but again, deletion policy tells us that this is absolutely not a reason to delete. At best, your analysis indicates the need to merge into a larger list, like List of hotels in India. All you tell us about is that the article has problems. We don't delete article which have problems solvable with editing -we fix them. --Cyclopia ^talk 00:33, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did look for a page as a suitable merge target but there was not one - and felt that editing out the non-notable hotels and having a list of five or six and then nom for AfD would be bad form. If some one with more insight into the subject wishes to create such a target will be happy with mergeing into it. Codf1977 (talk) 06:52, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep but clean up. See WP:STAND. The references are all links to the hotels and should be removed.Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 22:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment No opinion on the merits of this article other than the fact that it should clearly cite which standards are being used. Which organizations gave these hotels five-star ratings? Them From Space 17:48, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge information about the hotels and hotel chains in the city into Economy of Mumbai, but delete the star ratings. This page is a travel guide as it is currently constituted (something Wikipedia is not), and it is difficult to imagine how it could be rewritten to be anything other than a travel guide. On the other hand, the city's hotels are a notable element of the local economy that can appropriately be listed in the "Economy" article, but the star ratings are purely "travel guide" content that does not belong there. --Orlady (talk) 19:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keepbut star rating should be removed.It's just an informative article, not any travel guide.Everybody please take a look at List of hotels in Dubai.It's just same kind of article like List of hotels in Mumbai.If it is kept on Wikipedia, then List of hotels in Mumbai must be kept.$Max Viwe$ (talk) 05:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The existence of other similar articles is not a valid basis for keeping an article. The question to be asked is whether the articles are consistent with Wikipedia policy. --Orlady (talk) 03:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.