Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of heroes of the Christian Church in the Anglican Communion

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The result was delete‎. The consensus here is to Delete this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of heroes of the Christian Church in the Anglican Communion[edit]

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Unsourced article. I was not able to find any collection of heroes from the Anglican Communion nor from its associated denominations. This list seems redundant as the concept of hero in Anglicanism was already covered in Saints in Anglicanism, and the function of cataloging theologically important figures in Anglicanism was covered by Category:Anglican saints. Since the title of this page is not a likely searched term, deletion seem more suitable than redirect. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 01:55, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Religion, and Christianity. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 01:55, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as this seems to be an attempt to provide of list of people venerated as saints in Anglicanism, a topic not comprehensively covered by Saints in Anglicanism but certainly not described in an NPOV fashion in this list. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:02, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think unfortunately delete makes sense, as the whole subject is too fuzzy. The Anglican communion is already a large and not entirely unified selection of people who will all have different figures they admire, and the concept of "hero" was almost intended to avoid the formal approach of the Catholic church (a formal approach that makes it easy to define who's on the list). So a list of Anglican heroes is doubly undefined, and if done properly, potentially very long. It's likely to degenerate into a list of influential religious people with no clear boundaries. Many of the individuals on the heroes list are already in the Saints in Anglicanism article, and it might be more helpful to readers to concentrate on the latter rather than have a nearly-forked article. Elemimele (talk) 08:20, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not only is this unsourced, but how were these individuals picked as saints of that church? There's a separate Category:Anglican saints, which also varies. This is just a long unverified list. — Maile (talk) 23:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Just a list of names. No clear list inclusion and no references to validate each entry's inclusion. Ajf773 (talk) 20:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and expand if needed. The topic itself is notable and it is likely that reliable sources on the topic exist and can be added as the article is improved. This should not have been nominated for deletion. For example: https://anglicanjournal.com/all-these-saints-im-supposed-to-be-communing-with-a-primer-on-the-heroes-of-faith/ https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Commemoration_of_Saints_and_Heroes_o.html?id=JkizvwEACAAJ Bookworm857158367 (talk) 15:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't see how this "hero" is different from "saints". The article you cited use the term "hero" in a generic descriptive sense instead of a distinct concept that somehow qualifies for a whole article, and it does not verify the list of names included in the nominated article. Again, the Anglican concept of "Hero" is already covered in Saints in Anglicanism, unless sufficient evidences exist to prove that "Hero" and "Saint" are different categories in Anglicanism, there is really no point retaining this unreferenced list. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 16:03, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- in/exclusion depends solely on the editor's whim. That is not an appropriate basis for an article. It comes close to WP:OR. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:21, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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