Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of guest stars on The Flip Wilson Show (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Wikipedia not being paper isn't really an argument to keep an article, and there has to be some other reason. I can't see any such reason being provided here. --Core desat 00:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of guest stars on The Flip Wilson Show[edit]

WP:NOT Wikipedia articles are not lists of loosely associated topics such as quotations, aphorisms, or persons. This is a list of loosely associated people, the only association being that they all appeared on The Flip Wilson Show at some point in their lives. No context or information either, just names. This was previously nominated for deletion over a year ago and the result was no consensus, although opinion was 2:1 for deleting it. Saikokira 01:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom RogueNinja_talk 01:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment we should take up whether guest appearances lists are notable at one fell swoop; this will get deleted then someone will nominate the endearing List of guest stars on The Simpsons and it'll be kept, proving what? That the list of The Simpsons is encyclopedic while Flip Wilson isn't? That Wikipedia is biased against African Americans? That Wikipedia cannot be taken seriously? Maybe all of those and maybe they are true... Here are a few others I have found: List of celebrity guest stars on Sesame Street, List of The Twilight Zone (1959 TV series) guest stars, List of The Late Late Show guests, List of guest stars on Friends, Recurring Angel guest stars, List of Smallville guest stars, List of Smallville guest stars, List of guest stars on Ellen, List of Andy Griffith Show guest stars, List of guest stars on The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, List of notable guest stars on M*A*S*H, List of guest stars on The Love Boat, List of guest stars on Will & Grace, List of Chappelle's Show guest stars, List of Family Guy Guest Stars, Guest stars of Class of the Titans, List of guest stars of ER (TV series), a few others exist as redirects to the show's article or a list of all actors in the show. Let's do this consistently. Carlossuarez46 02:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "That Wikipedia is biased against African Americans? That Wikipedia cannot be taken seriously? Maybe all of those and maybe they are true." With ridiculous and offensive comments like that it's obvious you can't be taken seriously, so I'm not even going to dignify it with a response. You want to have a discussion on policy, do it somewhere else. And see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS while you're gone. Saikokira 02:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to be confused about the point Carlossuarez46 is trying to make. He is not arguing to keep this article because of the existence of these other articles. Rather, he is arguing that the result of this AfD ought to apply to these other similar lists, and that a failure to be consistent in this regard reflects badly on Wikipedia. I think it's a worthwhile point. --Maxa megalon 2000 05:04, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, and I can't figure for the life of me what Mr. Suarez said to provoke such a hostile reaction. I agree with the nomination, but I'm sure we can disagree in a civil manner. RGTraynor 14:05, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I placed his comments in italics, so it should have been clear what I found offensive. He suggested that deleting this article but keeping The Simpsons list would show that Wikipedia is "biased against African Americans". That is ridiculous and offensive, sorry if I sounded hostile for pointing it out. I try to be civil, but I have no patience for people who play the "race card". Also, if you look at Carlossuarez46's comments in other similar afds, his opinion on these lists is most definitely that they should be kept, so even though it might not be apparent that's what his intention is here, I have no reason to think his opinion has suddenly changed. Saikokira 02:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Per nom, fails WP:NOT.--Bryson^{Talk}^{Edits} 02:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete completely indiscriminate list. In addition, as this is without any context of the guest appearances, it's pretty meaningless. Ohconfucius 08:36, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, listcruft. (I tend to agree that the other guest lists should go, too.) Realkyhick 19:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. ffm ✎talk 13:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, WP:NOT#PAPER. Matthew 12:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, WP:NOT#PAPER, but mostly becuase it could be improved. - Peregrine Fisher 22:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, WP:NOT#PAPER, and per precedent. Carlossuarez46 23:28, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NOT/WP:LIST. I doubt this is ever going to be improved, or that would have happened in the 12 months since it was last AFD'd. Masaruemoto 05:16, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Indescriminate list. Indrian 06:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A good example of what a list shouldn't be like. Pufnstuf 23:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.