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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. (non-admin close) While some cleanup is in order, clearly no consensus to delete. BusterD (talk) 11:50, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Per WP:IINFO no inclusion criteria, it seems to be mainly a list of Scottish stuff. Also of the references I checked about 20 in total not one of them supports the idea of the person/place or thing being an icon but rather simply excising and being scottish Gnevin (talk) 09:53, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The basis of the list seems self-evident and there are similar lists for lots of other countries. Warden (talk) 18:33, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Not surprising it is "Scottish stuff" since it relates to Scottish culture. Seems an obvious topic for a Wikipedia article. Periodic cleanup is an obvious requirement for such a list, to restrict it to things which have or which are notable enough to potentially have articles, and to remove vanispamcruftisements. The topic "Scottish cultural icons" is itself found in five results at Google Book Search, and "Scottish Icons" turns up additional relevant books such as [1] which lists "tartan, whiskey, smoked salmon, bagpipes and the Scottish landscape," as well as Harry Lauder, ancient castles, the kilt, bloody clan history, & Braveheart. [2] lists as "Scottish icons" Bonnie Prince Charlie, the Battle of Culloden. Google News archive hasmany articles discussing "Scottish icons." A candidate for membership on the list should have a reference stating that it qualifies, if not in those exact words. Not everything in Scotland is or was a "Scottish icon" but many such can be readily referenced. (I would keep "cultural" in the title to make it clear it is not about Greek Orthodox religious images). One book noted that they are the things depicted on postcards one sends home from Scotland. The list is appropriate and maintainable. Edison (talk) 19:33, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Inclusion criteria is fuzzy and sourcing is non-existent, but this is a worthy addition to Wikipedia-as-pop-culture-compendium. A decent mine of in-links. That's not a stellar AfD argument, but ultimately this piece improves Wikipedia and that should really be the bottom line in deletion decisions. Carrite (talk) 05:06, 23 July 2011 (UTC) Last edit: Carrite (talk) 05:06, 23 July 2011 (UTC) [reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 19:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 19:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - some dubious entries, but is supposed to be a list of erm, Scottish stuff.-MacRusgail (talk) 21:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment It's supposed to be a list of culturally iconic Scottish stuff not simply Scottish stuff is the point I was try to make Gnevin (talk) 07:25, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.