Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of council leaders in the United Kingdom

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:10, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of council leaders in the United Kingdom[edit]

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Per Talk page discussion: possible fail of WP:Notability, not updated, no interest in maintenance, some factually incorrect information. PoliceSheep99 (talk) 13:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. For starters WP:LISTPEOPLE applies as a lot of the names have no articles. Secondly, there is no clear reasoning why different definitions of a council leader are used in each of the entries. Ajf773 (talk) 01:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep article needs to be updated to reflect recent changes in council boundaries/elections, but is relevant and notable in chronicalling local leaders throughout the united kingdom. see example in other countries such as United States or British Columbia. obsviously different nations follow different electoral systems so there are differences in how they are classified, but council elections in the united kingdom are rather important events politically and the elected members of such bodies do have significant responsibility. for these reasons the article should be kept. Also seems to meet WP:LISTPEOPLE. Epluribusunumyall (talk) 21:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is the kind of thing that seemed like a good idea in theory, but has proven to be largely unmaintainable in actual practice. Although Epluribusunumyall raised US and Canadian examples above, they aren't actually helpful as reasons why this should exist. The US list is based on a specific population-rank cutoff that keeps the list manageable and updatable because it's expressly confined to being a list of just 50 people total, and the US does not have any lists of "every currently-serving mayor in an entire state regardless of city or town size" — and while Canada does have lists by province or territory that allow all mayors of every city and town in that province or territory to be listed without size restrictions, there's no editor commitment to keep on top of them in a timely fashion: the big cities whose politics get broad nationalizing media coverage and attention do get updated promptly when there's a mayoral change, but the small towns that receive little extralocal attention at all regularly get overlooked. So their existence isn't a reason why this should also be kept: per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, in reality those lists should probably also be deleted due to their maintainability problems.
The value in such a list vests entirely in our ability to keep it accurate and current. If we can't do that, we shouldn't try to curate a dynamically evolving list we can't adequately maintain. Bearcat (talk) 16:37, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's unwieldy and infrequently updated; it's also an incredibly difficult subject to keep up to date. There are a lot of local authorities and they change leader all the time, not just at election time. Added to that, most council leaders aren't notable, and the role of leader of any individual council is not a notable office. Our article on the general office of Leader of the Council has less than a hundred words and isn't true. None of this context explains why this article should exist on Wikipedia. A closer analogue to the international comparisons given is our article Directly elected mayors in England and Wales which has none of the problems this one does. Ralbegen (talk) 15:02, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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