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List of boats in The Adventures of Tintin

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So, there's some interesting stuff here in the form of well written and referenced text on "The maritime world in The Adventures of Tintin", but this is wrapped in fancrufty and poorly referenced list that fails WP:NLIST (and while the list appears to have plenty of footnotes, many are just unreferenced notes or commentary). As a list, I think his has no reason to exist, but the content could probably be merged somewhere, or maybe split (or perhaps we could just delete the list part of this article and rename it?). It's a weird case, I've very rarely seen some good content bundled with bad one in such a way... If this is somehow kept, obviously, this is not a list of boats, but ships (or ships and boats?). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:40, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Comics and animation, Lists, and France. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:40, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: For what it's worth, the corresponding article in French is a GA. The topic is covered in a dedicated book! Horeau, Y. (1999). Tintin, Haddock et les bateaux. (Among other existing sources) Meets WP:NL. Topic addressed as a set.The rest of the issues are normal issues that can be handled through normal editing. Most of the ships in Tintin are notable, btw. Even see GNews -Mushy Yank. 19:12, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. -Mushy Yank. 22:46, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and WP:NLIST. Azuredivay (talk) 09:38, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Mushy Yank. BilletsMauves^€500 10:50, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and WP:NLIST. I'm only seeing trivial mentions and plot details. The relevant plot stuff is already mentioned at the main series article, which would be an acceptable redirect target, per WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 20:54, 3 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and rename to List of ships in The Adventures of Tintin as more appropriate title (I assume this might come from French "bateaux" as in the title of Horeu's book meaning both ships and boats). As already pointed out by Mushy Yank there are secondary sources with enough coverage as to fullfill WP:LISTN. Everything else are problems which can be solved through normal editing and are therefore no grounds for deletion. If someone wants to transform this into a fully prose article, or even expand the scope to The sea in The Adventures of Tintin, I have no objections. But these again would be editorial decisions which are no grounds for deleting what we have now. Daranios (talk) 16:35, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting in the hopes of finding a more definitive consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BD2412 T 02:06, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The book citation provided by Mushy Yank, as well as other secondary sources that are already in the article, indicate that the ships have been discussed as a group, therefore alleviating the main concern of the nominator and the other delete voters. Simply citing the policy without explaining why it violates NLIST like some have done here is a very poor deletion rationale. Obviously, the article needs to be renamed to List of ships in The Adventures of Tintin, but all of the issues in the article can be resolved through editing and are not indicative of a fundamental flaw that warrants full deletion. Billclinton1996 (talk) 07:31, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge some of the content on Secret of the Unicorn and Red Sea Sharks to their respective articles. I was somewhat hesitant, but a deeper look at the sources reveals that there is quite literally only one piece of SIGCOV, that being the book Yank mentioned above. Much of the dev info is about individual ships COATRACKED together, and not as the discussion of boats as a whole. Some of this info is worthwhile for preservation at individual subjects, but one SIGCOV piece and a lot of COATRACKING just isn't enough to base an entire article on. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, All Tomorrows No Yesterdays (Ughhh.... What did I do wrong this time?) 15:50, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Billclinton1996. Christian75 (talk) 20:39, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]