Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Zig & Sharko episodes

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The result was keep. Most participants believe this is a reasonable WP:SPLITLIST from Zig & Sharko given the size of the list. RL0919 (talk) 05:06, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of Zig & Sharko episodes

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Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ––FormalDude talk 05:40, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. ––FormalDude talk 05:40, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:11, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:11, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Spinoff articles for listing the episodes of a notable show, are quite common and acceptable on Wikipedia. Dream Focus 06:14, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This was unilaterally split from the main article due to its length, and lists of episodes are usually encyclopedic. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:16, 11 January 2022 (CST)
Delete I'm finding it extremely hard to see how this doesn't fail the notability guidelines for lists. Maybe WP:OTHERLISTSLIKEITEXIST or whatever, but in this case none of the episodes are blue linked or referenced to reliable sources and there's zero evidence that any of them ever will be. Nor is there evidence that reliable in-depth sources discuss them as a group or set. Otherwise, someone should provide some references to prove it, and not just reviews of the seasons or the show in general. Otherwise we could justify creating lists of episodes for every random small town public access show out there. Which, as far as I'm aware, we can't justify or do. Even in cases where the show might otherwise be notable. At least for something like Mister Rogers' Neighborhood the episode lists are per season and they include small summaries of each episode. Maybe something like that would work here, but having an indiscriminate list of 160 episodes without any context, plot summaries, references, blue links, or anything else that would actually serve an encyclopedic purpose just goes against WP:NOTDIRECTORY and Wikipedia not being a database of indiscriminate facts. More so because the Zig & Sharko is questionably notable and it's article is horribly referenced. At least create a list notable episodes in Zig & Sharko that can add to it's notability and then at some point re-create it when there's a justification to. Otherwise people are really putting the cart before the horse here. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:15, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 07:38, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but remove the unsourced episode plots and American premiere dates (article doesn't even mention said American network it was on, so this could be the date some expatriate kid got a DVD from HMV or something). Common for a series like this to have a list-of separately to keep the main article light. Nate • (chatter) 09:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Based on what part of the notability guidelines for list articles? --Adamant1 (talk) 03:27, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Selective Merge back to Zig & Sharko, where this was split from (diff). The Zig & Sharko article is presently at 12kb, so the list would still fit (WP:SIZERULE), particularly if it is pruned as per the suggestion of Mrschimpf above. That said, some sources verifying the content would be helpful; the list article presently has no sources (perm link). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:08, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - As per WP:SIZERULE at 50 episodes a season, and that's even without detailed descriptions of each ep, it clearly needs to be split off its own page. Division should take place at 60 kB, and this article alone is 89k Deathlibrarian (talk) 09:16, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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