Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Twitter traditions
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:36, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
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List that is not notable as a set. Appears to be a random collection of hashtags put together by the page creator. Fails WP:LISTN. Citrivescence (talk) 02:36, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Citrivescence (talk) 02:37, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:COATRACK. Seems to be a random collection of hashtags that have had a news story about them. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 05:19, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 06:57, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Keep While it is indeed a "collection of hashtags put together by the page creator" (me) I'd disagree that it's entirely random, as every instance mentioned on the page is genuinely an annual event in which people revitalise the hashtag or topic (not all have a tag). The examples have 'escaped' from Twitter's confines and have been written about in fairly sensible, citable articles and some have taken on other effects in the "real world", eg raising money. Granted it's not the most important reflection of sociological phenomena but I do think it's more than just internet whimsy (I didn't include "Balustrade Lanyard" among them https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/going-viral-brl33whb6dt and https://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/he-was-the-peoples-balustrade-lanyard) and reflects one way in which a popular social media tool is used to share thoughts and information among people who may not otherwise know each other. JoBrodie (talk) 09:32, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- @JoBrodie: Notability for lists requires notability as a set. That is, your references must also name and discuss these hashtags together, which is not the case. Citrivescence (talk) 15:30, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Citrivescence: If that's the case there's no need for further discussion, the page should be deleted immediately JoBrodie (talk) 22:25, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- @JoBrodie: Since it is the case, can you please change your !vote to delete? Citrivescence (talk) 04:56, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Citrivescence: Well, no, because obviously I don't want it to be deleted. It just seems that if this was a requirement of the list, and the list already couldn't satisfy it, then I'm not sure why it was opened for discussion in the first place. JoBrodie (talk) 09:54, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- @JoBrodie: Since it is the case, can you please change your !vote to delete? Citrivescence (talk) 04:56, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Citrivescence: If that's the case there's no need for further discussion, the page should be deleted immediately JoBrodie (talk) 22:25, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Extremely arbitrary, and sourcing overall is very weak - several only have primary sources. power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I could be convinced to !vote in favor of keeping this page if anyone found more secondary sources about "annual Twitter traditions" as a distinct category of thing. I suspect that someone has written about this, but it's the sort of writing that is easily lost amid the noise. XOR'easter (talk) 21:00, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Reply I'm not sure if anyone has written an off-Wikipedia article about the various Twitter traditions (alas), all the articles and references I found pretty much focus on one theme / tradition. I'm fairly sure there have been news articles and blog posts about Twitter's use as a 'second screen', where people watch TV and share comments about it live via hashtag - a different sort of Twitter tradition perhaps. Anyway, I have found the following references...
JoinIn has featured in Twitter's blog: https://blog.twitter.com/en_gb/topics/events/2017/Sarah-Millican-JoinIn.html, Metro: https://metro.co.uk/2018/12/25/feeling-lonely-low-christmas-not-joinin-twitter-8283322/, Huffington Post: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/twitter-connects-those-lonely-at-christmas-with-heartwarming-hashtag-joinin_uk_5c223f62e4b05c88b6fbe8da, BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42477266
John Lewis's story (confusion between American man of that name and British store) has been in Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/19/john-lewis-twitter-uk-christmas-ad, featured on ITV: https://www.itv.com/news/2018-11-19/american-caught-up-in-john-lewis-retailer-mix-up-gets-his-own-christmas-ad/, BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-46266698, Independent: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/christmas/john-lewis-christmas-advert-2018-twitter-uk-man-watch-video-a8641146.html
Richard Herring's amiable trolling of people asking, on International Women's Day, when International Men's Day might be has been written up in the Independent: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/nternational-womens-day-richard-herring-comedian-raises-money-men-international-mens-day-a8246616.html, E'enin' Stan'ad: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/comedian-replies-to-every-person-asking-when-is-international-mens-day-on-twitter-a3785081.html, Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/19/international-mens-day-women-sexist, Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/international-mens-day/
Ed Ball's Day text comes from Ed Ball's Wikipedia page.
Happy to find more examples but I don't want to bury the discussion in URLs :-) JoBrodie (talk) 21:50, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hmmm, without sources discussing the concept of an annual Twitter event, I'm not sure a list of them would obey the letter of WP:LISTN (although I personally wouldn't find it all that objectionable). Honestly, this material could go in the hashtag article without significant trouble. XOR'easter (talk) 20:55, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
- Reply I'm not sure if anyone has written an off-Wikipedia article about the various Twitter traditions (alas), all the articles and references I found pretty much focus on one theme / tradition. I'm fairly sure there have been news articles and blog posts about Twitter's use as a 'second screen', where people watch TV and share comments about it live via hashtag - a different sort of Twitter tradition perhaps. Anyway, I have found the following references...
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