Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Turkish names for cities, towns, villages and geographical locations in Bulgaria

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Turkish exonyms . MBisanz ^talk 03:35, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Turkish names for cities, towns, villages and geographical locations in Bulgaria

Is this really necessary? Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Flewis^(talk) 13:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many of the listed Turkish names of these locations are still in use in Bulgaria, however a proper listing is missing. Many of these locations have been established by Turks and there are historical facts of interest that wikipedia can help ellaborate on. Wikipedia contains dozens of similar articles, why you want to delete particularly this one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hittit (talk • contribs)

It's definitely preferable over move wars on the article names, but I think this needs to be renamed to something shorter. - Mgm|^(talk) 15:38, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Turkish names, if still in use in Bulgaria, or otherwise were used historically, can be put into each of these places' own articles. Wiki is not a howto/travel guide, so I don't really see the point of this list otherwise.--Boffob (talk) 15:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I agree with boffob on this one, it seems it would be relevant in articles themselves, however the list is relatively pointless. Neuro√Logic 15:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. -- RayAYang (talk) 15:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. -- RayAYang (talk) 15:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per Boffob. RayAYang (talk) 15:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Turkish exonyms #Bulgaria, assuming these aren't already on there. Far from being stupid or pointless, the subject of "exonyms" is an encyclopedic topic, and Wikipedia has many such articles about place names. However, in this case, it has been done. Maybe the title can be moved, as suggested by Mgm, to a useful redirect term. Mandsford (talk) 16:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. If a place is notable for having an alternate Turkish name, please place it in that place's article. A list for this is indiscriminate and overkill. Stifle (talk) 17:34, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per above. It's not useful as it is, but many Turkish placenames in Bulgaria are notable. Todor →Bozhinov 20:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Remark. Turkish exonyms are names in current use in Turkey. They do not necessarily coincide with historical Turkish toponyms for places at some time in the Ottoman Empire – at which time the names were endonyms. --Lambiam 20:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - then that article could be amended to include historical ones as well (with their own section or subsection in each country section). The information in the article nominated for deletion could certainly be somewhere, but it doesn't warrant its own article and is an unlikely search term.--Boffob (talk) 14:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In theory that could create a strange wart of historic Bulgarian names in an article otherwise listing current names – but as it is there are only five entries here as of yet, all starting with Abd. In any case, before entries from here are merged into any other article, it should be verified that they have a certain amount of notability. For example, the fourth one (the only one I've randomly checked) does not have an entry in the English Wikipedia under any name, and I've found 0 Google hits on English-language web pages with "Abdul Ehat". There is a stub for Абрит in the Bulgarian Wikipedia, which does not mention a Turkish toponym but reveals it is a village of population 273. However, the Bulgarians place this village in Dobrich Province whereas the article under discussion would have Abrit in the adjacent Silistra Province, so either one of the two is wrong, or this Abdul Etat Kalesi/Abrit is a different Abrit not even mentioned in the Bulgarian Wikipedia. --Lambiam 20:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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