Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of The Book of Boba Fett characters

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. At AFD, we have discussions about deleting articles based on Wikipedia policies. It sounds like the nominator is actually arguing for a Merge which can happen outside of AFD back on the article talk page. There is no support here for the deletion of this article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of The Book of Boba Fett characters[edit]

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Per User:TNstingray at Talk:List of The Book of Boba Fett characters#Existence, I am wondering if there should be a List of The Book of Boba Fett characters page? Like obviously it has more than enough sources, but I don't see why that information could not just be included at The Book of Boba Fett itself and the character pages for the characters featured, since most of the character information here is for characters that already existed. As User:TNstingray noted, it feels really pretty much totally redundant considering we have a standard List of Star Wars characters, plus the more specific List of The Mandalorian characters, and there were no original characters from this series notable enough to receive Wikipedia pages. Boba Fett has existed for decades, Black Krrsantan and Cobb Vanth were book characters first-and-foremost (the latter mainly appearing in The Mandalorian afterward), and the Mandalorian and Fennec Shand also appeared first in The Mandalorian. The entire main and co-starring character section consists solely of characters who appeared first and primarily in other Star Wars films and shows, and told in more relevant detail on those pages, and then what is left is "Featured guest characters" and "Minor guest characters". Also this was a single-season miniseries. I don't know of any other single-season miniseries on Wikipedia to have its own list of characters page. ICOTEYE (talk) 00:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. The article is very well sourced, as the nom admits, and both it and the proposed merge target are already beyond the optimal size for an article. I don't see a coherent reason for proposing deletion or merge. Owen× ☎ 00:34, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That is the thing. Removing the information already repeated much better on other pages, we are left only with the "Featured guest characters" and "Minor guest characters" sections, which are small enough to easily see merging with List of Star Wars characters. Like there are characters whose total screen time amounts to less than four minutes (I counted) who have three paragraphs-worth of content; that can easily be cut down. It is a very WP:FANCRUFT-ridden page, even for Star Wars character pages. ICOTEYE (talk) 01:21, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Science fiction and fantasy, and Television. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:23, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I think this is a very clear WP:DINC situation. A merge may be worth discussing, but it's not necessary as ATD or NOPAGE. —siro χ o 03:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Character lists are common and I find it hard to believe that characters from any major Star Wars production would somehow not be notable. Maybe improvement is more merited than trying to trash it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Just because information is notable for inclusion on the encyclopedia, does not meant it immediately warrants its own article. I'm not quite sure what benefit this article provides that is not already covered, or could be covered, at The Book of Boba Fett#Cast and characters, List of The Mandalorian characters, or List of Star Wars characters, to name a few. Is the Book of Boba Fett so notable for its characters that it warrants a separate article on Wikipedia? I don't think so. The sourcing reflects the general buzz about a new project in a popular IP, and yet we don't have unique character articles for any other Star Wars projects (besides Mando). Yes, I am aware that WP:OTHERSTUFF is an argument to avoid. However, as someone who has tirelessly attempted to revitalize character lists for numerous franchises on the encyclopedia, I have become increasingly convinced that Wikipedia is not the place for these at all due to their tendency to accumulate cruft, and their incredible inconsistency. Instead, the subpages at Fandom (website) are the better location for these dives into minor, unimportant characters. My vote does not lean strongly in any particular direction. I just feel that the current list system has a lot of problems. TNstingray (talk) 19:48, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Considering this from a Wikipedia-centric point of view, keeping a narrow scope like this is a good way to keep a "real world" focus and a higher article quality, so a merge into a list with a broader scope might backfire with respect to your stated goals.

I do think there's a fair argument to merge it into The Book of Boba Fett#Cast and characters, but I don't see it as necessary as an alternative to deletion. Given that the list is more than double the length of the main article, keeping them separate may still be the right approach.

All in all, AfD is rarely the right place to have this manner of discussion, I think the talk page discussion you started—which later prompted the AfD—was indeed the right place to start. While I can't promise I'll be available, do feel free to ping me on any talk page discussions you start in these "fictional elements" topic areas, as I would like to participate and have some general ideas as to how massive franchises could be handled. —siro χ o 03:51, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.