Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Sherlock Holmes cast members
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The result was delete. Sandstein 12:58, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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really arbitrary selection of films and it could never be comprehensive with the hundreds of films that exist. Look at List of actors who have played Sherlock Holmes for example. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 13:30, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete, since it becomes indiscriminate when it starts to include characters with a single appearance. However, it might be useful to have a page listing actors who have played a select set of specific commonly recurring Sherlock Holmes characters - Watson, Lestrade, Moriarty, Mycroft, Mrs. Hudson. bd2412 T 14:13, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Keep Franchise is clearly notable, so the real objection is to the number of non-repeated roles, which is a fair and appropriate editorial criticism. If all the minor characters who appeared in less than three separate films were eliminated, an editorial change, would the nom's objection remain? No, it would not, hence deletion is inappropriate per WP:ATD--never delete that which simple editing (e.g., cutting down existing stuff) can easily accomplish. Many other similar tables have such an inclusion rule, for just this reason. Jclemens (talk) 06:50, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
- My objection would remain because you couldn't possibly build a comprehensive list of everyone who has played Lestrade, Hudson, Morstan, etc. in every form of media (radio, television, film, etc.) The article would be huge. It is better to have separate articles for separate characters; List of actors who have played Sherlock Holmes for example. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 16:25, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete there is no source that does a comparative table juxtaposing the Sherlock Holmes media titles, only articles for Sherlock Holmes himself (254 titles) and Watson. Similar lists can be created for the major characters, but the problem with this list is that it starts calling all the guest and minor characters as starring and you would need up to 254 columns. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:59, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete the list presentation presumed there is a franchise of films , like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which is not at all the case. Better to do the few characters that reappear frequently in separate lists per Angud. --Masem (t) 21:04, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete First the list is subjective as it is only choosing certain titles out of the 100's of films, TV, radio and stage versions made. Second the characterizations of each character (including Holmes and Watson) can vary wildly. That edges this list into WP:INDISCRIMINATE territory. Last, as per Masem, this is not a franchise of films. MarnetteD|Talk 22:15, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. This list is indiscriminate - it is essentially cast lists of some of the movies starring Sherlock Holmes, including not just characters original to those movies, but even "Man in Bar" and "Servant Girl". It purports to be about the Sherlock Holmes franchise, but there is no such thing, unless you consider Doyle's stories a "franchise". They are independent adaptations of a public domain character, and are no more a franchise than every movie about Dracula or Robin Hood or Hercules is part of one big franchise for that character. Egsan Bacon (talk) 09:23, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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