Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Sailor Moon actors

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Walton^One 18:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Sailor Moon actors

Unnecessary and unnotable list of voice actors for Sailor Moon. This information is already included in the individual character articles and the list of minor characters. A standalone list is unnecessary and Wikipedia is not a directory of voice actors in a series. Collectonian (talk) 18:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. —Collectonian (talk) 18:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I would say Keep this, as Wikipedia already has lists of actors on loosely related topics, including everyone who played Dr. Who. I want to avoid a WP:NOHARM argument, but I really don't see how this article hurts Wikipedia. JuJube (talk) 19:08, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Remember WP:OTHERSTUFF. --Damiens.rf 19:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, per nom. Quite aside from WP:OTHERSTUFF, JuJube's analogy is poor. The list of everyone who has played the title and lead character in a forty-year-old series is somewhat more significant than everyone who has ever been a voice actor in a particular cartoon. I would similarly advocate deletion of a List of everyone who had ever appeared in a Dr. Who episode. RGTraynor 19:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe. Rethinking vote. JuJube (talk) 22:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This list, although valid, is redundant and unnessacary. If a SailorMoon wiki exists, I'd say transwiki it there, but otherwise delete. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 19:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep List seems to have detailed content that would convolute the Sailor Moon article. Most of the entries have an article associated with them and is appears to be a valuable collection and quick reference to all the voices that are used for these characters. Seems to pass WP:N and WP:V. Good enough for me. --Pmedema (talk) 19:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)* - Delete as per TheFarix's comment below. --Pmedema (talk) 15:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The articles on the actors are just lists of their previous jobs. They are not real articles. You don't automatically become notable for being a saylor moon voice actor. --Damiens.rf 19:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That comment would only be valid in this discussion if this discussion were about deleting the actors' articles themselves. -Malkinann (talk) 00:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The existence of articles on the actors was being used as an argument for keeping this list ("...Most of the entries have an article associated with them..."). I'm arguing that those articles are not even good enough to justify themselves, let alone the list. --Damiens.rf 16:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Most of them are still alive, and therefore may become more notable. Having a stub on their acting jobs (their career), is still a start. Having a list to tie them all together for Sailor Moon does not put undue weight in their articles about their Sailor Moon job. (as the old Sailor Moon cast category was said to). -Malkinann (talk) 21:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! I'm also still alive and therefore I may become more notable someday. Should I start a stub about myself? --Damiens.rf 21:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Um, no. -Malkinann (talk) 22:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great. But now you understand how flawed your argument is? --Damiens.rf 23:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My argument is that how good the actors articles are shouldn't enter into a deletion discussion of a list of actors, that it's an unrelated issue. The actors list is separate from the actors' articles, after all, their careers are more than Sailor Moon. Just as a historical note, the actor list was created after the deletion of a "Sailor Moon cast members" category.-Malkinann (talk) 23:34, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Voice actor credits on anime related pages are given on the character or character list articles; redundant. Doceirias (talk) 19:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~. It is standard to have a cast list somewhere, and this is clearly too big to be part of another article. --Masamage ♫ 20:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Abstention while I think about it based on TheFarix's comment below. --Masamage ♫ 21:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per non. The actors and actresses are already listed with the characters they portray or voice. This list is unnecessary, we don't include these lists in anime-related articles. --Farix (Talk) 21:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We don't? Oh, hey, look at that. That's changed since the last I saw. --Masamage ♫ 21:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete duplicative. JJL (talk) 00:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Eusebeus (talk) 00:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki and then delete. Theres a Sailor moon wikia right here. --Nick Penguin_(contribs) 01:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as duplicitous listcruft. Blaxthos ( t / c ) 03:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm going to have to hope that you misspoke, and that you mean "redundant" rather than "intentionally deceptive". --Masamage ♫ 20:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 04:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as discriminate and verifiable list with clear notability. Best, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 07:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
KeepThere's more than one way of presenting this sort of information. Tho the material can be gathered out of other articles, collecting it in one piece is also a good way to go. We can do both, at least for the most important series DGG (talk) 23:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.