Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Presidents of the United States by name

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The result was delete. Sandstein 11:23, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

List of Presidents of the United States by name[edit]

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Miscellaneous WP:TRIVIA largely unsourced for the the names are not significantly notable. - CHAMPION ^{(talk) (contributions) (logs)} 07:08, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral Yes, trivial. But less trivial than lots of other articles and lists. Kitfoxxe (talk) 14:29, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Please do suggest some of these more trivial lists. Spiderone 20:09, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Often when a list is nominated for deletion its fans tell us how important the items listed are. Well, these are some of the most important people in modern history.Kitfoxxe (talk) 00:53, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations (5th nomination)Kitfoxxe (talk) 08:51, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't vote precisely because I am aware of "other stuff exists." I don't feel like nominating other trivial lists because they do no harm (except contribute to WP's silliness) and I don't want to hurt their fans' feelings. This is an entirely serious comment. Kitfoxxe (talk) 15:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:54, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Total trivia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:07, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per WP:PLOT and WP:GNG (although I do love etymology) Spiderone 20:11, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The base information is harmless at worst, and it was obviously developed by many interested editors. We can presume there is a market for this category of information. jengod (talk) 19:42, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The fact that president of the United States is one of the most important political roles in the world does not mean we need to keep obsessive lists of every conceivable piece of WP:TRIVIA that could possibly be compiled about them, such as the etymologies of their names or which president happened to have the longest surname or how many presidents were "juniors". None of that has anything to do with what's important about the presidents, namely what they did in their political careers. And for added bonus, very little of this is actually reliably sourced at all. We're an encyclopedia, not a compendium of lists of everything it might be conceivably possible to create a list of — what's next, "List of favorite cheeses of presidents of the United States"? "List of presidents of the United States by number of toes", the moment somebody can find a source which says that one president had his big toe amputated due to an ingrown toenail? I'll grant that there's some potential interest in this kind of information — but there are plenty of free webhosts out there where somebody can create a webpage to list it if they care that much. It's not Wikipedia's role to be a compiler of trivia like this, however. Bearcat (talk) 16:08, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. WP:NOTTRIVIA Ajf773 (talk) 09:04, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note There is also: List of nicknames of Presidents of the United States. Kitfoxxe (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Possible actions: Delete that too or merge the two articles. Kitfoxxe (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Or leave everything as it is, since WP has lots of stupid lists anyway. Kitfoxxe (talk) 15:29, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Plea for help Right now the list starts with our most recent president. I think it would make more sense to start with our first. I don't know how to edit it so this is changed. It uses some kind of sortable template which I don't understand.Kitfoxxe (talk) 15:37, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. mere trivia. worse. unsourced trivia. worse. unsourced trivia that may not even be accurate: i.e. "George," as in Washington, "Possibly named after George Eskridge, a lawyer who took care of Washington's mother after she was orphaned" no source given. To the extent that we have sources for info like this, it surely belongs on the bio pages.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:04, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.