Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Philippine Presidents by middle name

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all, presidental-cruft. - Mailer Diablo 12:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Philippine Presidents by middle name

While verifiable, both the topic and the contents of represent a perfect example of indiscriminate information. The information itself can already be gleaned from List of Presidents of the Philippines, a featured list, and the pages of the individuals themselves. There are quite a few of these articles in Category:Lists relating to the Philippine presidency; I am going to be conservative with my nominations here for the sake of clarity in this particular AfD. Dekimasu 04:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages for the reason given above:

Dekimasu 04:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom Josh Parris 04:50, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
delete per nom. Chris 04:53, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. The information is already located in the main list. Any attempt to list a collection of information in a novel manner when it is already listed elsewhere absolutely requires that the method of listing be somehow covered by reliable sources. List of heights of United States presidential candidates is a good example of how this can be done successfully. --- RockMFR 05:04, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - but, if there's not another list, rename List of Philippine Presidents by first name to List of Philippine Presidents, and edit it to work as such. Part Deux 05:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Presidents of the Philippines. --- RockMFR 05:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They list Emilio Aguinaldo as a president? That's certainly stretching the definition. Maybe if Jefferson Davis could have been called a president in the United States. Part Deux 05:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He's recognized as president by the Filipinos/Philippine government, while Davis is (and probably will never be) recognized by the Feds. --Howard the Duck 15:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Some of the other "lists of Philippine presidents" are also pretty dumb. Note to closing admin: it might be worthwhile to install a redirect, only because there are a pile of articles in the "what links here" page. YechielMan 06:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed. I've prodded 2 or 3; maybe, when all this is said and done, just merge those into the main article. Part Deux 06:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Re: page links, I think they are mostly due to the list-of-lists template that's transcluded at the bottom of a lot of pages. If the links are removed there, it shouldn't be a problem to delete without redirecting. Dekimasu 09:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as failing WP:NOT#IINFO, per precedence U.S. Presidents by middle name, U.S. Presidents by first name. Ohconfucius 09:08, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per above. MER-C 11:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral/no vote/comment: I guess this was inspired by the U.S. presidents lists. However, if all of these info can be merged into one article it'll be fine. --Howard the Duck 15:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per precedent. --Polaron | Talk 15:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all for all the same resons that similar lists for U.S. presidents were deleted. Suggest search-and-destroy for all such similar lists for leaders of other nations. Otto4711 15:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all arbitrary list with little added value. A single sortable table is much better than this.-- danntm ^T _C 23:29, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all I think List of Presidents of the Philippines covers this already. I also agree with Otto4711. Search and destroy!
- Comment Category:Presidents of the Philippines requires a lot of cleaning ---Lenticel 04:25, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all already. Is there a "List of Philippine presidents by shoe size" or "... by sexual orientation?? Good grief! Realkyhick 09:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and salt. This is getting ridiculous. Shrumster 17:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. What's next, Ordered by Shoe Size? Arakunem 20:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I agree, List of Philippine Presidents by shoe size, hmm. --MaNeMeBasat 18:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Do Not Delete. If you will all make a consensus to delete the US Presidents and VPs lists, I will vote for deletion on these articles too. I guess all the lists are relevant with all historical facts and should be preserved and maintained the way it used to be. For the so-called "list by shoe size", I guess we are not too dumb enough to do that stupidity isn't? On the case of Emilio Aguinaldo, he is considered as the First President of the First Philippine Republic. Your search and destroy tactics are really non-ethical to say for a man of stature like you. How amateurish. --Glenncando 22:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Sorry about the Search and Destroy thing. What I mean there is that there might be other redundant articles like these for other nationalities that only restates info from better articles. I do not mean a childish witch-hunt all over Wikipedia for any articles that sounds trivial. I think, assuming good faith, that this AFD's goal is to make Wikipedia and Category:Presidents of the Philippines better and not just something to pick fights with us Filipinos. So cool lang.

Note that the lists of US presidents by first and middle name were deleted and that the deletion logs were linked on this page. Also deleted were similar lists for US presidents by birthday. I initiated the deletions for those articles. I for one was serious about finding other similar articles for other countries and getting rid of them. There is no value in a list of national leaders by first or middle name regardless of the nation in question. Otto4711 20:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For all of us here (including me), please, sarcasm is unproductive. Some people might be offended, especially people from other cultures ---- Lenticel 08:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- List of Presidents of the Philippines exists already, and covers all the facts in other lists, so? --MaNeMeBasat 07:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - An FL, by that. --Howard the Duck 06:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete All per nom -- Whpq 17:53, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all we deleted the similar lists of U.S. presidents who are just as notable. Eluchil404 07:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.