Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Northern Irish flags

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep Arkyan  ^(talk) 21:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Northern Irish flags[edit]

This is POV pushing, this issue is already dealt with in List of British flags, Flag of Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland flags issue, this article should be deleted padraig3uk 20:27, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There's no reason why this article shouldn't exist; it just requires a more comprehensive collection of flags. I've started the ball rolling by adding the UK and RoI flags, but there's a long way to go, particularly in the addition of flags used within Northern Ireland but not necessarily to represent Northern Ireland (like, say, GAA county colours, the rugby union and cricket flags, military and paramilitary flags, and so on). Northern Ireland flags issue discusses issues of flags that represent Northern Ireland itself, and is not for all flags used in Northern Ireland, which is what List of Northern Irish flags should be. Bastin 20:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep. Requires more flags thats all. The template expand should have been placed instead of a Articles Of Deletion Request! Jaymac407 20:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, it just need the POV removing.--Vintagekits 20:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In line with List of English flags, List of Scottish flags and List of Welsh flags. No POV existed. I wonder why an editor who proposed the article's deletion would make several subsequent edits to it. Presumably we can safely remove the afd proposal and consider it withdrawn..? --Mal 10:33, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, I made edits to remove POV.--padraig3uk 10:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, no - I made edits to remove POV, and to stop a mere rehashing of an article that already exists (Northern Ireland flags issue). See the article's talk page. --Mal 10:41, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, You removed the only offical flag the Union Banner, and edited the article to say the Ulster Banner was the Flag of Northern Ireland, when you know that this flag has no offical status since 1972, you also removed other flags used by the nationalist community, yet leave a Loyalist Ulster Nation flag used by loyalist seperatists, and you claim that is removing POV.--padraig3uk 10:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. That loyalist flag is used by some to represent Northern Ireland, as distinct from the nationalist point of view that the Irish tricolour represents the whole of Ireland and also as distinct from the fact that the Union Jack represents the whole of the United Kingdom. Its logic Padraig. Politics is irrelevant. --Mal 23:30, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: Show me a nationalist flag that represents Northern Ireland, and I will gladly support its inclusion in this article. --Mal 23:31, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So the Ulster Nation flag represents Northern Ireland because some Loyalists use it, and by your logic can be included, but by the same token flags used by Nationalist/Republicans to represent N Ireland as part of the whole of Ireland can't be included.--padraig3uk 23:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep. Informative and in keeping with the wikipedia. Not POV at all. - Kittybrewster (talk) 07:58, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, correct it is not POV now, however, if you look at some of the edits be the creator (how you recently awarded a Barnstar) of the article you will see that he has attempted to introduce POV - there has been signficiant work undertaken to dePOV this article.--Vintagekits 09:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep- per Kittybrewster Astrotrain 12:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.