Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of New York Giants opponents

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete all. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:50, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of New York Giants opponents[edit]

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

WP:NOTSTATS, contested PROD. I am also nominating the following related pages:

Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:35, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. — Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:36, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I really don't understand the issue. I have often looked at each one of these pages and found them to be informative and easy to understand. That is why I endeavored to make one for the New York Giants. I feel that these tables help to put a teams history with another team in historical perspective and I do not find that the data contained in the table is meaningless or confusing. - Bigblue535658 (talk) 00:00, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOT#STATS I was going to nominate them for AFD as soon as I got home Secret ^account 04:33, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Why do all of the "Percentage" or "Percent" columns have decimal numbers in them instead of actual percentages? - Bkid ^Talk/_Contribs 05:56, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 08:54, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I have no real opinion either way, but it is worth noting that Luton Town F.C. league record by opponent has both survived an AfD and been promoted to Featured List status.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:30, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The Percentages are in decimal form because that is standard practice for standings for all major sports leagues. Look at NFL standings at NFL.com for example, winning percentage is in decimal form. - Bigblue535658 (talk) 9:20, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Comment - Just as an example, without these pages where else are you supposed to be able to see what the Washington Redskins record is against the Denver Broncos? - Bigblue535658 (talk) 9:21, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
- Possibly on the team's website? Or the NFL's? Or even (horrors) in a book. Just because WP:ITSUSEFUL doesn't mean it should be kept. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:04, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I feel that most information, if not all, on this website doesn't need to be on it. - Bigblue535658 (talk) 9:21, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Delete data could be useful on the team article, but not necessarily as its own page. It looks to me like it would be clumsy and cumbersome to keep updated, even for just NFL teams.--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. - WP:NOT#STATS, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Including a table on the team's page noting, say, their best 5/worst 5 win-loss records against opponents could add value to the article, IMHO. Having entire pages on the subject for each team, though, is not something Wikipedia needs. (And while one soccer team's page on the subject might well be an FL, the fact WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't mean these (and possibly even it) shouldn't be deleted.) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:04, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I concede that this is somewhat unnecessary as it's own page. I would put it on the Giants page directly however. - Bigblue535658 (talk) 1:20, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Comment - I would say all of these tables should be transferred to their corresponding team pages. With the exception of the Washington Redskins page. While some of the tables are organized by winning percentage or alphabetical order the Redskins page is organized by neither. - Bigblue535658 (talk) 1:25, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Delete all – I'm a supporter of lists in general, but I think this series is too far into WP:NOT#STATS territory. I'm also not convinced that moving the tables into the teams' articles is a good solution. I haven't looked at all of the team pages in question, but the Giants article has a lot of tables already (perhaps too many). Not sure another one would be in the best interests of that page. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:19, 30 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all Indiscriminate lists, best treated in team articles. Blueboy 96 19:22, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all or merge all (if, for the sake of keeping everything, you want to merge all of them into the team articles). Otherwise, none of these lists are acceptable as stand-alone lists in the slightest. –MuZemike 19:52, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all or merge all Could be some interesting information for the history pages of each team, but as a stand-alone article, these just don't work.--Giants27(T|C) 01:22, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all as WP:NOTSTATS. Opponents are already covered in encyclopedic fashion in the main article. Dzlife (talk) 17:54, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.