Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Muslim leaders and politicians
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Mz7 (talk) 09:25, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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Per WP:LISTCRUFT. Störm (talk) 09:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:22, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:22, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 09:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Massive catch-all with no real scope. I think there would be value in having a list of Muslim politicians from countries without a Muslim majority as this is a much smaller and definable set, but sources would be required to show that each individual entry was Muslim by self-identification and not just by heritage. Mccapra (talk) 10:38, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. As noted, there are many countries in the world (Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Syria, etc.) where a large majority of politicians and leaders would simply be expected to be Muslim — meaning that in those countries it violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE, while trying to keep their sections manageable by imposing some arbitrary standard beyond being a Muslim politician would violate WP:ARBITRARY. Mccapra has a point that a list of Muslim politicians in non-Muslim majority countries might have more value — but including politicians from countries where most politicians would simply be expected to be Muslim approaches total unmaintainability. Bearcat (talk) 17:15, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete, per Bearcat and the list is indiscriminate. "Leader" is too vague of a term to pinpoint all the entries who fall under this over-extending umbrella. Utopes (talk) 21:53, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete As I said before, the thousands in Category:Pakistani politicians, Category:Indonesian politicians, etc. could be imported in mass to List of Muslim leaders and politicians, making this even more of an indiscriminate list. Perhaps a well-sourced article appending "outside the Muslim world" could be a legitimate way to do this. Reywas92Talk 23:18, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete, per nomination. --SalmanZ (talk) 17:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete and draftify Delete per nom and per Bearcat. Since there is encyclopedic value in a list of Muslim politicians from a specific country (specifically those from non-Muslim majority countries), sending the information to draft space preserves the information currently contained here until country-specific lists are created. --Enos733 (talk) 01:28, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete in many places this will be a list of all leaders and politicians, some places going back 100s of years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:01, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. There are over a billion Muslims in the world, how it is a notable cross categorisation that they are also famous political figures? Ajf773 (talk) 09:05, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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