Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mega Man Zero characters
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete--Anthony.bradbury"talk" 23:42, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
List of Mega Man Zero characters[edit]
- List of Mega Man Zero characters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
This article has consistently (for three years) failed to use any kind of independent or out-of-universe sourcing, has an ONLY in-universe style, and all sources that could be used for verification in the article have been rejected as inappropriate by all but one editor. To exacerbate the problem, the multiple articles that were recently merged into the article had what sourcing they did have (in- and out- of universe) removed.
Finally, the article seems to consist of only cruft, OR, or redundant info - anything that does seem correct is either a reiteration of the plot or what else is said on the game's page itself, or is such minutiae that it wouldn't even be of interest (or noticeable) to those who played the game itself - info such as the voice actors, what ancestors a character had according to a stand-along audio file, What exactly one character said to motivate another, and so on. In fact, by its very nature (according to agreement between some of the editors), it is a repository for information that is non-notable, and putting it all on a list was an attempt to stall the eventual calls for deletion.KrytenKoro 01:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete. This list is unlikely to be well-sourced, but it is useful as a tool to first merge the equally-bad standalone articles, then merge those articles to the respective game articles. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, could someone take a copy of it to their sandbox/user space, and we cull the work from there? I don't know how to do it myself, but if anyone told me how, I would do it.KrytenKoro 03:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Just create a user subpage, like User:KrytenKoro/List of Mega Man Zero characters, and copy and paste the list content into it. Homestarmy 03:48, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not really in favor of that, because I'm not entirely sure that they can't be sourced in list form, and merging then remerging is at the heart of the WP:FICT compromise. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:52, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- But if the article isn't acceptable in it's current form, and is only useful as a place to work on the info until we move it to the appropriate place...Isn't that what user space is for? If they can be sourced, though (and if I am understanding what the problems with the suggested sources were, correctly), then it shouldn't be taking three years - the only development since then, really, has been the Official Complete Works book, and none of us seem to have access to it (I'll but it the second I see it in stores, and I'll try to e-mail fan-community members, but...). I'm going to go ahead and create the suggested page - I won't remove the original list itself, but at least something will have been done.KrytenKoro 04:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It isn't acceptable in its current form, but may be useful as part of a merge project or may be redeemed. We'll want the history in articlespace, then.
- The reason I'm still keeping to weak delete is because this article is going to contribute very little if it's merged, and sets a good precedent for eliminating superfluous plot summary. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:13, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, could it be moved to my user space in a way that keeps the history? Then the history can be removed back if it is needed when/if the info is merged.KrytenKoro 07:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- But if the article isn't acceptable in it's current form, and is only useful as a place to work on the info until we move it to the appropriate place...Isn't that what user space is for? If they can be sourced, though (and if I am understanding what the problems with the suggested sources were, correctly), then it shouldn't be taking three years - the only development since then, really, has been the Official Complete Works book, and none of us seem to have access to it (I'll but it the second I see it in stores, and I'll try to e-mail fan-community members, but...). I'm going to go ahead and create the suggested page - I won't remove the original list itself, but at least something will have been done.KrytenKoro 04:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case, could someone take a copy of it to their sandbox/user space, and we cull the work from there? I don't know how to do it myself, but if anyone told me how, I would do it.KrytenKoro 03:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- In case this article is deleted, I'd be happy to userfy it with history for anyone who wants to work on it, but I'd also be happy to delete it from there if there's no visible work done for 6 months. - Mgm|(talk) 12:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 10:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Making spin-off articles to protect main articles from bad content is not a good idea. Deleting the bad content is much more effective. Jay32183 05:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete It really has no chance of improvement. TTN 12:06, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.