Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Malayalam songs recorded by K. S. Chithra

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 13:25, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of Malayalam songs recorded by K. S. Chithra[edit]

List of Malayalam songs recorded by K. S. Chithra (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NLIST. Note that WP:NOTDATABASE applies. Few, if any, tracks pass WP:NMUSIC. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 10:02, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Lists, and India. Shellwood (talk) 11:27, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - since this is an extension of List of songs recorded by K. S. Chithra, they should have been grouped into one single AfD. The rationale for keeping them though remains the same. WP:NOTDATABASE does not apply here, since this isn't "an indiscriminate collection of information". It is not a database, it is a list, a legitimate one, which needs sourcing, just like every list of recorded songs by other singers. I suggest that we start a project of sourcing them all instead of deleting a page which so much time and effort have been put into. Other than that, the notability of the songs isn't as notable - fact is the majority of films are notable. ShahidTalk2me 11:06, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Essentially the same reason as before. This is a huge structured list which virtually no effective references. 9 references in the whole 80k article, all to the films. Completely unfiltered, no way to know what is notable and what is not. No historical value. Content has been copied unfiltered from Wikipedia and streaming sites and clickbait/discogs style sites. Fails WP:NLIST, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:V and WP:DEL8, WP:DEL14. It is essentially a click and paste article scope_creepTalk 12:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I completely agree. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:15, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I closed this discussion as "no consensus", with the following closure statement. I believe this statement still applies, but rather than waste community time there just to reopen these, I'm relisting it. I'm copying my closure statement as I feel the commentary is relevant. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:49, 2 February 2023 (UTC) [reply]

    This is one of several AfDs I have now read where virtually identical !votes have been posted by multiple parties that leave the discussion evenly divided. Those advocating deletion correctly argue that NLIST needs to be met; those arguing to keep correctly argue that discographies of notable artists have generally been treated as notable, and that individual items don't have to be notable for a list to have a Wikipedia article, so NMUSIC is generally not relevant. I don't see how repeating this discussion any number of times is a productive exercise; we clearly need to have a wider discussion about what criteria we use to evaluate the notability of such discographies, and probably use a few bundled nominations to make the discussion more efficient. As such I'm closing those nominations in today's log that are clearly divided on this basis with this identical statement, which seems fitting given the identical discussions. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 17:44, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 21:45, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - no evidence that the intersection of Malayalam songs and K. S. Chithra is a notable one; see WP:CROSSCAT. No evidence that the topic itself has garnered significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject; see WP:GNG and WP:LISTN. No evidence that the list is anything other than original research and appears to be largely unverifiable; see WP:V and WP:NOR. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:38, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.