Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Lenny Skutniks

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The result was no consensus. Does not rule out editorial merging, renaming etc. Sandstein 06:28, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Lenny Skutniks

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Non-notable neologism. Of the four references, only one (a self-published blog) actually uses the term "Skutniks", and that particular link is a 404. The rest are simply primary sources to establish that a particular individual was mentioned in a State of the Union address. The definition itself is troublesomely vague and over-inclusive ("notable people who are invited to sit in the gallery at a . . . joint meeting of Congress"). Badger Drink (talk) 10:19, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:11, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. — Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment While I can find some support for the term "Lenny Skutniks", there's more support for the term "Skutnik" in reliable sources. There's a Times article on them here and another one from ABC discussing them here. MSNBC cover them here. I think the article needs renaming, possibly to something like Skutnik (guest). We should then probably delete the "List of" article as a redundant redirect and point Lenny Skutnik towards the renamed article. Alternatively we could merge the explanation paragraph (minus the list of heroes) into State of the Union address. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 14:34, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More sources: [1], [2], [3], there's use of the term "Lenny Skutniks" here and here. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 14:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, I've heard this term used before. I do agree that merging isn't a bad idea. - SimonP (talk) 17:50, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete neologism, no evidence it's widely used - not even in the given sources, not sure incoporating sources above would improve the article at all. Hekerui (talk) 10:51, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment More sources [4], [5], [6]. The Congressional Research Service defines it here [7]. Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 11:31, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, causa sui (talk) 21:48, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rename, perhaps to List of State of the Union guests. Notable, well-referenced encyclopedic article with a silly name. Ma^t_chups 14:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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