Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Lavender Castle characters
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The result was merge to Lavender Castle. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 12:15, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
List of Lavender Castle characters[edit]
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Deprodded without rationale or improvment. While lists do not require references, nor do they require that their components be notable, this list appears to be made up of entirely WP:OR. Onel5969 TT me 13:11, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 13:11, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Selective merge to Lavender Castle, leaving out the OR. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:15, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir (talk) 14:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- "...this list appears to be made up of entirely WP:OR." @Onel5969:: What is your basis for saying that? Please elaborate. postdlf (talk) 15:51, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- There's absolutely zero sourcing, and it while it was pulled from the parent article, it was completely unsourced there as well. I prodded, hoping the editor who split the article (without proper attribution as per WP:SPLIT), would provide sourcing, but they simply removed the prod tag. While there isn't a lot of sourcing for this show's characters, there was one source I found, here, but as you can see it doesn't nearly contain as much information as is in this list. If this becomes a redirect to the article, this information shouldn't be merged back into that article, as it is unsourced, and once removed, shouldn't be re-entered into the article without valid sourcing as per WP:UNSOURCED.Onel5969 TT me 20:29, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- None of that establishes that it is OR, let alone that it is unverifiable. I instead think you are not understanding what OR is or what is reasonable when we are describing the content of a work of fiction. A primary source is the most reliable source for descriptive statements about its own content. Based on your familiarity with the subject matter, is there any content in the list that is not directly sourceable to the series, and instead veers beyond mere description into opinion or interpretation?
And looking at the parent article's edit history, this was just split yesterday, and could have just as easily have been reverted back. You honestly thought an AFD was the best response to that, instead of just reverting it, if you thought it should not have been split or was done improperly? You didn't even attempt any talk page discussion. This nomination is a failure of WP:BEFORE, not to mention WP:PRESERVE and WP:ATD.
In conclusion, keep or merge; describing the characters of a notable series is a standard element of coverage, and the appropriate level of detail and sourcing is a matter for normal editing to resolve here, without arbitrary deadline or threat of a deletion axe. postdlf (talk) 20:48, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- None of that establishes that it is OR, let alone that it is unverifiable. I instead think you are not understanding what OR is or what is reasonable when we are describing the content of a work of fiction. A primary source is the most reliable source for descriptive statements about its own content. Based on your familiarity with the subject matter, is there any content in the list that is not directly sourceable to the series, and instead veers beyond mere description into opinion or interpretation?
- There's absolutely zero sourcing, and it while it was pulled from the parent article, it was completely unsourced there as well. I prodded, hoping the editor who split the article (without proper attribution as per WP:SPLIT), would provide sourcing, but they simply removed the prod tag. While there isn't a lot of sourcing for this show's characters, there was one source I found, here, but as you can see it doesn't nearly contain as much information as is in this list. If this becomes a redirect to the article, this information shouldn't be merged back into that article, as it is unsourced, and once removed, shouldn't be re-entered into the article without valid sourcing as per WP:UNSOURCED.Onel5969 TT me 20:29, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
- Merge with Lavender Castle - the article on Lavender Castle already has a sub-heading Lavender Castle characters. Vorbee (talk) 06:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
- Merge with Lavender Castle per everyone above.4meter4 (talk) 05:14, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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