Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of LGBT South Asians

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The result was Delete. — Scientizzle 22:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of LGBT South Asians[edit]

I can understand a list sorted by race, gender or religion, but by continental region? What good does this serve us? Who identifies as "South Asian"? This is not a useful list, not only in scope but in content as well. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 00:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete. "South Asian" is actually a common way, at least in Canada, to describe people from India and surrounding countries as opposed to just plain "Asian" or "East Asian", which virtually always means "Chinese". But I'm not sure exactly what this page does that a category wouldn't. --Charlene 01:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Oysterguitarist~Talk 03:12, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Googling LGBT South Asians reveals many hits (80k+) including a magazine for LGBT South Asians (Trikone), an LGBT South Asian film festival, an LGBT South Asian panel discussion at MIT and other places, and numerous LGBT South Asian organizations and events. I think this alone makes it clear that (1) people identify as 'LGBT South Asian' and (2) why a list of LGBT South Asians is relevant and useful.
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 09:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 09:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Split into List of LGBT Indians, List of LGBT Pakistanis, List of LGBT Bangladeshis, List of LGBT Sri Lankans, and whatever other ones apply. Carlossuarez46 20:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure there are loads of gay Pakistanis... Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:58, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - If either is necessary, a category would serve this purpose better. --Alynna 20:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOT#MYSPACE. Should we have List of heterosexual South Asians? The idea is preposterous. --Nonstopdrivel 21:54, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Nonstopdrive Bulldog123 23:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep LGBT South Asians are a distinct subset in the LGBT community and have only come into higher visibility over the past several years with LGBT South Asians social, health and business groups as well as online networking. It might be a surprise to some that "South Asians" are distinct from "East Asians," etc. but not if you're from Asia and now living in American or English cultures which discriminate against both, at different times, for different reasons. Benjiboi 19:25, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Nom's first point seems to be that a list by region somehow does us less good than a list by race, gender, or religion. I don't see the reasoning there, and none has been offered. The second point, "Who identifies as South Asian?" has been answered. Clearly, this is a distinct, significant cultural group. I wouldn't want an article to be deleted because discussion participants didn't have much knowledge of the field, and I've seen it happen several times. Articles on specialized subjects should be tagged expert-subject, not deleted. Finally, I really don't see how "something else would be better" (i.e., a category) is a reason for deletion. My only uncertainty is whether to vote keep or strong keep. Matt 20:02, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Given that adding an adjective to your vote does not make it any more meaningful, you may as well spare your fingers. I ask that instead of writing snarky votes, you improve the article so that non-experts do not make the same mistake. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 20:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry if I sounded snarky. If it helps, I don't consider myself an expert in the subject either. Matt 00:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's ok. But I think the chap below is right in that someone could well write a great article on the LGBT Asian community, but a list of is probably not necessary. Attutudes towards LGBt vary so much throughout "South Asia", from acceptance in india to criminalisation in Pakistan, a list in itself cannot tell us anything. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 07:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The question, I think, is not whether LGBT South Asians as a group are notable (which I think they are), but whether a list of people in that group is encyclopedic (which I think it is not). Someone could write a great article about the South Asian LGBT community, but that doesn't mean we need a list of people in it. --Alynna 21:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE. — Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 23:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I usually like lists. But this is apparently not a list of LGBT South Asians--which would be much too large, but as list of some about whom we have articles and are either notable as LGBT activists in some sense, or notable enough to include anyway. Possibly a more explicitly targeted list would be better. DGG 00:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Categorize no need for a list bout a category would do good to replace this.--Sefringle^Talk 22:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The list is impossible to maintain. You will never cover every single one of them, and there is not much significance in listing out all the LGBT people there, since they are not likely to group together and make an impact, thus making it indiscriminate information.--Kylohk 13:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.