Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of IrAero destinations

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The result was delete‎. Star Mississippi 02:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of IrAero destinations

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Fails WP:NOT, WP:NCORP.

WP:NOT is failed because this is a complete listing of the services of a company. As such it is excluded under WP:NOTCATALOG no. 6 which states that "Listings to be avoided include [...] products and services". It is also an indiscriminate listing - all destinations are listed without any attempt to summarise them which is against WP:IINFO.

WP:NCORP (which applies to the services of companies as well as the companies themselves) is failed because none of the sources here are independent, third-party, reliable sources. This article is entirely sourced either to the company website or to run-of-the-mill articles based on company press-releases and statements and trade-press coverage. Additionally, many of the links are 404, making them fail verifiability.

The IrAero page is also nominated, also for failing WP:NCORP. The only source that is not the company website or trade-press is a single report by TASS, but this is a report based entirely on a press-release from the company and is a run of the mill report about building a hangar. Multiple instances of significant coverage in reliable, third-party, independent sources are required to WP:NCORP, but there is not even one cited in the article nor does a quick search find any. FOARP (talk) 16:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, Aviation, Lists, and Russia. FOARP (talk) 16:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and Travel and tourism. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:55, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete List of IrAero destinations per nom, various WP:NOT violations. Keep IrAero. Being the launch operator for a new aircraft type seems like a pretty strong sign of notability; the existing source for that is paywalled, so I can't tell whether it is based entirely on press releases from IrAero or Irkut/UAC – but there are other independent sources that discuss this aspect, e.g. [1] which is clearly not just parroting a press release. Independent sources can also be found for other aspects, such as sanctions-busting flights to southeast Asia. Rosbif73 (talk) 06:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Rosbif73. Does that include IrAero? FOARP (talk) 08:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, should have made clear that my !vote applied only to the list – I've edited it accordingly. Rosbif73 (talk) 09:57, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Rosbif73. My reading of the Airinsight article (setting aside WP:TRADES for the minute) is it only makes a bare mention of IrAero ("Prominent operators include Aeroflot, Red Wings, and IrAero.") Do the other sources - e.g., the SE Asia sanctions-busting stories - give more coverage than that? FOARP (talk) 15:43, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, I must have pasted the wrong URL, though I can't quickly find the link I intended to post instead of that Airinsight piece. Regardless, as mentioned by others below, there are also Russian-language sources to consider. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:17, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep IrAero article. Meets WP:NCORP when you search for the name in Russian, ИрАэро. RecycledPixels (talk) 16:28, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the list of destinations. Per WP:NOTDB we shouldn't be maintaining a database of every place this airline has flown to in history. I lean Keep for the article about the airline. By searching for IrAero in Russian I was able to find at least one article in Vedomosti that discusses the company in detail based on Google Translate. Sunnya343 (talk) 01:34, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Withdrawing IrAero from the above AFD per above links. FOARP (talk) 09:13, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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