Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Grabby recipients

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The result was redirect to Gay Chicago Magazine. MBisanz ^talk 00:23, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of Grabby recipients

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The Grabby Awards article was recently deleted - do we still need this list? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 00:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC) Delicious carbuncle (talk) 00:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete per G8, essentially a subpage of the deleted awards page. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 05:03, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete G8. — Ṙ ΛΧΣ²¹ 05:46, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I don't believe it qualified for a speedy. The "parent" page was deleted as a copyvio, not over issues related to the subject itself (eg, no claim that the subject was not notable). The "subpage" was not part of that copyvio (see the original copyvio at [1]. I'd be happy if this article were deleted over notability issues after community discussion -- but this wasn't really a subpage to begin with, but independent text, and deletion without considering the notability issues is also likely to spawn problems as the articles on individual recipients are reviewed. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 12:33, 31 January 2013 (UTC) [copied from user talk:RHaworth][reply]
Comment I couldn't find anything on Google News for "Adult Erotic Gay Video Awards", and nothing of substance on "Grabby Awards", just a couple name-drops. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 21:04, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:42, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now, but... the "Find sources" assigned by this AFD's template is quite unhelpful. In looking, I see that the "Grabby Awards" are not entirely unsourcable,[2][3] and an article that is NOT a G4 or copyvio is perhaps possible. IF and or when a new and properly constructed and sourced article is offered on THAT topic, this would then be a reasonable spinout list article, and THIS would then not be a G8 and merit an undeletion if sought. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:24, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Gay Chicago Magazine. This article began as a subpage of List of gay pornography awards, not the copyvio page that was recently deleted, so it shouldn't be speedied or otherwise deleted because of assumed connections to that page. However, the awards really have no notability independent of the notable magazine that gave them for many years. On the scale of porn awards, these seem to fall below Urban X (award notable, but does not support notability for recipients) and above Nightmoves (neither award nor awarding magazine notable). A clear consensus on this point would be useful, since there are a lot of dubious articles out there with claimed notability only from these awards. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 13:09, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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