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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 08:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- List of Deaths in Scream (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
Redundant with the plot section in Scream (film). Expanding upon that is horror fancruft. It is violating the growing consensus for a word limit for film plot synopses. (Scream's "synopsis" is already huge). I have also seen a more basic list of deaths being added to the films' articles: these are redundant to the plot section and looks like something an amateur fan site would do. The JPStalk to me 12:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film and TV-related deletions. -- The JPStalk to me 12:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Word. Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 12:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Fancruft. --Bryson 17:37, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Scream (film)#Deaths, which currently only contains a link to this article. -- Black Falcon 17:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. How is this important? JuJube 19:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with Scream (film)#Deaths and shorten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by El Cid (talk • contribs) 21:59, 15 February 2007
- Comment: I really don't think the 'deaths' section is a good idea. It is covered by the plot and it's very immature. The JPStalk to me 22:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- If the consensus is to merge... will you be okay with the merge? Or will you delete the deaths section? -- Ben 16:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm skeptical that there is a common understanding of "merge." An example of what I think you mean by a deaths section is illustrated here. I more encyclopedic, mature version would be ensuring that such detail is integrated within the plot in context. Those 'deaths' (and sometimes 'Survivors') sections are really cheap and beneath us. The JPStalk to me 19:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I agree with JPS. I'd be interested to know what the purpose of listing the deaths is, whether as a section or a separate article. What's the benefit to the reader, even if it were decided that it's all encyclopedic? Would someone who's not a hardcore fan have some reason to read that, and if so, what's the reason? Noroton 19:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Then it would appear that there is a disagreement about how to present the information. Some editors seem to think that a section listing or describing the deaths of the characters in the movie deserves a section apart from the section describing the plot of the movie. I don't know what the right venue would be for a discussion of that point... I imagine the only time it would get cleared up would be at a request for arbritration. With that said, thanks for responding to my query. I'm going to assume that you would take merge to mean make sure it's covered in the plot section. -- Ben 06:46, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm skeptical that there is a common understanding of "merge." An example of what I think you mean by a deaths section is illustrated here. I more encyclopedic, mature version would be ensuring that such detail is integrated within the plot in context. Those 'deaths' (and sometimes 'Survivors') sections are really cheap and beneath us. The JPStalk to me 19:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- If the consensus is to merge... will you be okay with the merge? Or will you delete the deaths section? -- Ben 16:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I really don't think the 'deaths' section is a good idea. It is covered by the plot and it's very immature. The JPStalk to me 22:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete One article should be enough, whether this is merged into the main one or not. Response to JPS: More immature than the movie? I have no opinion on merging.Noroton 23:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see what the problem is. You don't request to delete other death lists like the List of deaths in the Friday the 13th series and the Final Destination ones. So what's the problem? If you do delete this then I think you should be deleting those ones too. I think I am proving a point aren't I? Adam 1412 12:15 16th February2007.
- Oh, thanks for pointing them out. You're correct that they should also be deleted. --The JPStalk to me 13:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Please also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deaths in Final Destination 3, which is a multiple AFD. The JPStalk to me 15:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That's one hell of a point you made there, chap. (Adam) Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 15:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, thanks for pointing them out. You're correct that they should also be deleted. --The JPStalk to me 13:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete This is superfluous information. Qualifies as fancruft. --PhantomS 22:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Unlike FF13 and the FD series all the deaths can be placed in plot summuarys without too much concern. Jamesbuc
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.