Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Borderlands characters

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Borderlands (series). There is unanimous consensus that this should not remain as a stand-alone title. Less clear is whether it should be a straight delete or merge into Borderlands (series). I'm going to call this a limited merge, mostly because doing so would preserve the editing history and WP:ATD recommends avoiding deletion if there's not a clear consensus to do so. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:36, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of Borderlands characters[edit]

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I recommend deletion because this consists only of plot summary (WP:PLOT), which is constantly being inflated, as fancrufty articles tend to be, by drive-by IP edits. As one of the authors of the main Borderlands (series) article, I'm not aware of sources that could be used to expand this topic beyond plot summary. There are of course numerous media articles about these games, but they cover almost all characters only in terms of what they do in the plot, or in terms of their gameplay significance. The main antagonist, Handsome Jack, might have received enough coverage for his own article, but that wouldn't be precluded by deleting this. Sandstein 21:02, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After a brief review of available third party references, I'd opt to Split Handsome Jack in a standalone article and Merge a brief summary of the list of characters to Borderlands (series)#Characters, then redirect the title. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 21:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think a split of the Handsome Jack content would help, it's all unsourced and probably original research. A serious article would do better to start from scratch with sources. The same applies to Claptrap, as noted below also a possible article candidate. Sandstein 08:01, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was notified of this AfD but I only made a redirect to the series' section—I think it can return to that state and expand out summary style. The characters don't need more than a line or two apiece. I can see Claptrap having its own article, but that's independent of this AfD. I'm not an apologist for long, rambling, mostly unsourced plot/character articles. I wouldn't bother merging anything that wasn't from a secondary source. I also doubt there would have been objection to a bold redirect. – czar 22:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 04:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as in-universe plot and trivia with no real-world relevance, development information, or cultural impact. Lack of sourcing for characters to be a stand-alone topic and overly detailed gamecruft for the main article to warrant a split. The length and separation of characters does not aid understanding game's plot. I could see that one or two characters may be notable given there are sufficient sources, but not all. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 13:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Borderlands (series). Given there are 3 main titles, 1 spinoff title (Tales), and additional media (comics, etc.), a brief list of characters and their VAs would be reasonable. Without checking, I would suspect that Handsome Jack could potentially be a separate article, followed by Claptrap and Tiny Tina but all those would require sourcing. --MASEM (t) 23:12, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I was leaning toward merge, but am swayed by the nom and Heelknowz' arguments. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:29, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.