Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Bleach manga chapters
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 00:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not shopping guide site. Jooow 22:48, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep - this is a good reference list. Referring to the user's concerns (probably about ISBNs), it reflect the widely accepted tradition on Wikipedia whereby ISBNs should be noted when possible. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 22:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Barip 23:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Not a shopping guide, as mentioned above, including the ISBN is standard for anything where you are listing books. Further, we don't anywhere link to a location where you could buy the books, it's clearly not advertising. --tjstrf 00:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Delete Why, oh, why do we need chapters for manga? Do we list all chapters in Pride and Prejudice or the Ramayana? Do we list all chapters in Journey to the West or the Hakkenden? Harry Potter? Even the venerable Jane Eyre with its famous Bildungsroman-based chapters has no mention of them... This is utterly unnecessary and unencylopedic. The ISBNs could be moved elsewhere. WP:LC --Kunzite 02:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps because manga is published in separate chapters, rather than in one single volume. Keep. Vashti 10:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- As this list itself makes perfectly clear if you look at it, when manga is published separately, it is published in a series of volumes, certainly not as separate chapters. That's why the list is divided into volumes, see? And why the ISBNs are per volume, not per chapter?
Sorry, but this list is like listing every chapter in the Harry Potter series, and as such is pointless detail. A list of volumes would make sense, but this should be deleted. — Haeleth Talk 11:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply] - Umm. I mentioned several multi volume works in the above list of titles. The Hakkenden is a 106 volume work. There are also works like Dickens' Great Expectations, which has a serial publication. We really don't need every single chapter of a manga like this. "Good reference" or not, it's listcruft. --Kunzite 11:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- As this list itself makes perfectly clear if you look at it, when manga is published separately, it is published in a series of volumes, certainly not as separate chapters. That's why the list is divided into volumes, see? And why the ISBNs are per volume, not per chapter?
- Reply The Hakkenden, as well as other serialized novels, sound like they could indeed use sorted chapter listings then. Indeed, the Hakkenden probably deserves an immense amount more detail than is currently given on it. (It doesn't even have character articles or basic plot overview) But we simply do not have enough interested editors, and the Hakkenden has little or no presence in English. It's a pity. --tjstrf 19:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps because manga is published in separate chapters, rather than in one single volume. Keep. Vashti 10:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Seems like a good reference. It just needs some cleanup here and there. ResurgamII 02:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep - comparing to things like list of Episodes of the Simpsons WilyD 13:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. WP:NOT indescriminate collection of useless unencyclopedic cruft. The fact that other similar cruft exists is no reason to keep this one, "do as we say, not as we do" and all that. GarrettTalk 01:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep From what I see this is no different from our widely accepted episode lists for TV shows, just for a different media (the original media for this work of fiction, no less). -- Ned Scott 09:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete The list does not contribute to the understanding of the Bleach series. --TheFarix (Talk) 13:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Even knowing the article is a good reference and consulting it a lot of times myself, I must admit it's not exactly what is worth of an enciclopedia article (I'm not very sure if any manga should have an article besides the main one, but that's another thing). - Access Timeco 01:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete unless someone expands the list to include plot synopses. Then maybe it would be encyclopedia-worthy. Lovelac7 01:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply. Ugh, please don't summarize every single chapter. A chapter-by-chapter exposition of a series, now that's cruft. --tjstrf 19:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as I can't see any good reason why not to. Shiroi Hane 03:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Wikipedia has many articles similar to this, all of which are very encyclopedic. Although, the article seriously needs a rename.--Frenchman113 on wheels! 15:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you point a few of those articles out? --Kunzite 18:57, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.