Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Barry Bonds' home runs by parks

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. CitiCat^♫ 04:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Barry Bonds' home runs by parks[edit]

The article consists of indiscriminate information, which can all be found on several other sites in their entirety, anyway. Ksy92003(talk) 01:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete indiscriminate info. Doczilla 03:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per above (WP:NOT). - Rjd0060 04:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is not a bunch of indiscriminate info. This is statistics about his home runs. Though WP:NOT#STATS says that "long and sprawling lists of statistics may be confusing to readers and reduce the readability and neatness of our articles." But this list is not a long and sprawling list. I think it is encyclopedic considering his baseball career. Chris! _ct 05:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment– I also question the notability of the location of his home runs. That, as well as the "indiscriminate information" claim I made earlier, doesn't seem notable to me. Ksy92003(talk) 05:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, how is the location of his home runs not notable? They all happened in ballparks that have Wikipedia articles. I can understand why one might think that this is an indiscriminate list. But I don't understand how this is not notable. Chris! _ct 06:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Think about it this way. Is a home run at Dolphins Stadium any more significant than a home run at Minute Maid Park or Jacobs Field? Ksy92003(talk) 06:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at each home run this way, then of course the home run is insignificant. That is why I group them in a table since the home run record all together is notable. Chris! _ct 06:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"'Huh?' he said in a confused tone." Sorry, but I still personally fail to see how a home run can be more significant in just because he hit it in a different ballpark. A home run is a home run, no? Ksy92003(talk) 14:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you understand. Yes, a home runs is a home run. But the list never implies his home run in AT&T Park is more important than his homer runs at other park. It basically records the numbers of home runs he hit by park. Chris! _ct 01:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not only saying that a home run in one park is more significant than the other, but also that the specific location of the home runs (whether they are more significant in certain parks or not) isn't notable, anyway. Ksy92003(talk) 02:16, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again I am mystified by your comment. The article never suggests that a home run hit at a specific location is more important than one hit at some other locations. I can understand if you think that the list is unencyclopedic. But to say that it asserts some kind of notability on each home run or each location is hard for me to understand. Chris! _ct 00:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry; I'll try to explain it again. Let's drop my comment that a home run hit in stadium A isn't notable than stadium B for the moment. I don't personally believe that the location of the home runs is notable information (dropping the [in]significance of the different locations). It doesn't seem like an encyclopedic list. Ksy92003(talk) 01:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Merge to Barry Bonds. Pure trivia, and one thing Wikipedia isn't about is articles made up entirely of trivia. There have also been lists of all 714 of Babe Ruth's home runs (date and park) and the first 715 of Hank Aaron's (and probably the last 39) runs. These would be interesting trivia, but not encyclopedic. This is even less useful than a list of Barry's first 755 or 762 homers. Fans will note that Barry hit more than half of his runs at home at Pittsburgh and San Francisco. Somebody is probably trying to figure out why he hit fewer home runs at American League parks. The effort is appreciated, I know the link to TSN website won't always work, perhaps this can be an addition to Barry Bonds, but sorry, this is not a stand alone article. Mandsford 12:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Well, this list was in the Barry Bond article and was deleted. I just retrieved the same list to create a new article. So I don't think merging to Barry Bonds again is a good idea. Chris! _ct 01:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Good grief. Is every permutation of statistics worthy of a new page. Besides Hank Aaron is the record holder. Decoratrix 03:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Clearly covered by WP:NOT. Vegaswikian 00:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.